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jema
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 9:40 am    Post subject: Ceilings  Reply with quote    

I am about to put up a plasterboard ceiling which is trivial, but I am wondering whether to artex it or not. It will be a bathroom ceiling with rescessed low voltage halogen lights.

I am bit worried that I will make a mess of artex patterns

Any thoughts?

jema

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Use a scrunched up plastic shopping bag and do a push, turn and release method, which will produce a functional blobby pattern.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I used a notched plastic trowel (the one used to put grout on walls; mine has wide teeth on one side and fine on the other, I used the fine one).

If you hold it at about 25 and turn it round in a circle and then keep repeating this overlaying each circle. It should give a nice uniform pattern.

To tidy up around the edges, run a small square edged trowel or a small piece of thick card about 2 wide around them to create a smooth border.

First time I did it I was convinced I would make a real mess of it, but it turned out quite good, I was really pleased with it

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I am implacably opposed to artex in all forms. Skim it properly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
I am implacably opposed to artex in all forms. Skim it properly.


couldn't agree more; why not go the whole hogg and 'plaster' the ceiling with polystyrene tiles or posters of the Bay City Rollers - no offence mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Anti Artex and definitely anti Bay City Rollers

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

3mariners wrote:
sean wrote:
I am implacably opposed to artex in all forms. Skim it properly.


couldn't agree more; why not go the whole hogg and 'plaster' the ceiling with polystyrene tiles or posters of the Bay City Rollers - no offence mind.


Would it stop you buying a house if all the ceilings were artexed?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It probably would, other things being equal. Given a choice between two otherwise similar properties I wouldn't buy one with Artex. When we were buying in Motspur Park we rejected a couple on the grounds of Artex and pine panelling.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
It probably would, other things being equal. Given a choice between two otherwise similar properties I wouldn't buy one with Artex. When we were buying in Motspur Park we rejected a couple on the grounds of Artex and pine panelling.


We have a pine panelled loo Which I keep meaning to rip out.

Trouble with skimming is that for an amatuer it is even harder to get a decent result than with Artex.

jema

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Apart from my biggoted snobbish view on Artex, if you get bored with it, or if you want to skim later, it can be difficult; often have to resort to removing all the plasterbaord (or what ever it is) to renew the finish.

As for a house with Artex, personnally wouldn't buy one. Often had all sorts of additives which I'd rather not mention.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

3mariners wrote:
Apart from my biggoted snobbish view on Artex, if you get bored with it, or if you want to skim later, it can be difficult; often have to resort to removing all the plasterbaord (or what ever it is) to renew the finish.

As for a house with Artex, personnally wouldn't buy one. Often had all sorts of additives which I'd rather not mention.


Asbestos is possible in old artex over 20 years old I think.

jema

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Glad you said it. I don't want to be a scare monger, I have to be careful in my job. Bear in mind that many materials sit around for a while and 20 years could be considered to be a conservative view - but not necesarly mine - alledgedly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It also has ground bones in it, which is why it stinks when wet and drying out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

oh hum, must be just me that likes artex then

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 05 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Fullup wrote:
oh hum, must be just me that likes artex then


I don't object much to it, in a decorative sense, though I think it is a bit dated, but I don't like the maintenance aspect.

jema

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