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tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:40 pm    Post subject: Cheap deer exclusion?  Reply with quote    

Just been told we occasionally get muntjac deer, this is a right pain as I can't really afford to have stock proof fencing installed (no time for DIY either).

Is there a cheaper method of making sure the buggers don't nibble my trees?

judith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Some people say that lots of human hair all around the boundaries helps.

Other than that, there is the squirrel solution.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Judith wrote:
Other than that, there is the squirrel solution.


2 footpaths through the fields that need to be fenced

judith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
2 footpaths through the fields that need to be fenced


Gulp. Sounds very expensive. How high can a muntjac jump?

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cheap deer exclusion? Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Just been told we occasionally get muntjac deer, this is a right pain as I can't really afford to have stock proof fencing installed (no time for DIY either).

Is there a cheaper method of making sure the buggers don't nibble my trees?


Get 'em first. Or get someone else to get them if you don't wish to.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Judith wrote:
Gulp. Sounds very expensive. How high can a muntjac jump?


4ft should do it, dunno whether its better to get more robust tree guards (rather than the rabbit proof ones)

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You need at least 1.5m for roe deer, don't know about muntjac

There is growing concern with deer fencing though, especially in scotland

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4065527-103541,00.html

judith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
4ft should do it, dunno whether its better to get more robust tree guards (rather than the rabbit proof ones)


Trouble is, the sort of anti-deer tree guards you see in country parks and the like are more like cages than the rabbit spiral type. For the number of trees you are planning, that sounds even more expensive than fencing.
Have you looked into the cost of stock fencing? Basic sheep netting with a top strand of barbed isn't too horrific, although not particularly attractive.

judith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jonnyboy wrote:
There is growing concern with deer fencing though, especially in scotland

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4065527-103541,00.html


Not many capercaillie in Essex fortunately

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Judith wrote:
Have you looked into the cost of stock fencing? Basic sheep netting with a top strand of barbed isn't too horrific, although not particularly attractive.


I've priced that or my place, looks like about 50-60 for a 50m metre run based on 2m pole spacings

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I suspect the locals will be more accepting of the weird nut bloke if he doesn't blast the deer as well as the squirrels. Any grants available?

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
Any grants available?


Not that I can see, got a meeting with the local fencing firm on Friday I'll talk to them

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well if you're not going to take me up on my eat 'em comment how about another one?

If deer frequent the area is it possible to feed them something they would rather eat? I gather damage can be worse in harsh weather so could you feed them on something they would rather eat than young trees? Ivy or pine branches has been suggested - you can also buy pastes that attract deer, could these be used to draw deer away from trees?. However, you don't want to encourage them from far and wide. Seriously, have you spoken to anyone who knows about them, either from a forestry point of view or shooting?

Greywolf



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I had a quick Gooooooogle

Deer control

I searched for 'deer control lion dung' because I remember an article a wee while ago, but for the life of me can't remember where

Still the link seems to have all the info

HTH


Greywolf

Nanny



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 05 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i can extole the advantages of having a greyhound

there are muntjac around here along with foxes etc and we have never had a single one of either in the garden

i can only put that down to having the dogs

the smell of the dogs must put them both off i suppose

they have passed withing feet of the garden but never in it

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