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tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 05 10:12 am    Post subject: Child Trust Fund  Reply with quote    

What's that all about then?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've just seen this post. Put simply it's a bribe by the Labour party for people to vote for them at the next election. I think the first payments are going to be made at about the same time.

I'm not sure how you can justify giving someone over 1000 for having a child, but, if your child is a bit too old or if you don't have any you get nothing.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hard to see it as anything other than a bribe, and for what, if a kid goes on the futher education it we be wiped out due to the lack of grants

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:
if a kid goes on the futher education it we be wiped out due to the lack of grants


I think the idea is that it helps make children interested in savings and the stock market will shoot up and children will not have to pay for Uni.

Better get that 10 bore ready for the flying pigs.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm sure you need an eight or six bore for porcus volens. A ten bore just ends up with wounded runners all over the place.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think I'll need to stock up with plenty of cartridges as I think we entering the flying pig season. Mind you there'll probably be a bumper crop of shrooms with all the BS about this spring & summer.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Child Trust Fund Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
What's that all about then?


Is this the thing I have heard TV ads about "children born since ****** will automatically receive it"??- I thought, why are they wasting money telling us then, if it is automatic!?

...then I remembered; the election

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Is it automatic? I thought the whole purpose of the various Labour schemes was to make people claim them. That way you can say you are going to give millions away and most people don't know about the benefits or find it too difficult to claim them.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I bet there is a 30 page booklet to fill in even so.

dougal



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 05 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Haven't paid it much attention (no current relevance ) but the family can "top up" the fund, the investment 'vehicle' can be (within limits) chosen and there's favourable tax treatment in there somewhere as well...

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 05 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It's suprisingly easy as they have all your details from the inland revenue on household income so there are no forms to fill in.

You get between 250 and 500 depending on your household income and this can be invested through shares, savings or stakeholder roots. The idea is to get people to see the benefits of small regular savings so that if you pay in about 30 a month it will mature into 6 to 8k depending on which savings method you choose. A further payment is made when the child is 5 or 7, again the amount will depend on your circumstances at the time.

Any positive adjustment to the tax regime is a bribe and any negative change is robbery. It's not worth going out and breeding as having a child costs you around 200k by the time they're 18.

Personally I think this is the first step in getting parents to save long term for higher education as in 18 years they will be expected to pay all fees and charges and there will be no govt support. More like the American model. If they made changes and made degree courses last up to 5 years so students could study and hold down part time jobs to pay their own way this would make more sense.


More info at: http://www.childtrustfund.gov.uk/Homepage/fs/en

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