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moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Location: Gloucester

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 6:59 pm Post subject: Lack of Sunlight

Due to my neighbours 9 foot tall Leylandii hedge it turns out that half my little plot is going to be in the shade.

Can anyone tell me what veggies will grow well without direct sunlight? I'm really stumped now, I've managed to get lettuce, spinach, onions and and beetroot in half of it. I still have leek seeds, carrots, spring onions and radish left to plant.

I've stuck the perpetual spinach and courgettes into huge pots and I'm considering growing the leeks in dustbins.

Any ideas anyone?

jema
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:08 pm Post subject:
I imagine that weed killer might enhance your veggie potential

Bugs

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:16 pm Post subject:

Presumably, reasoning with the neighbours is out of the question (I can understand

)?

Second, if you don't own your house and fear the cost to its value by official means, isn't there coming in/already in a rule on height? Although I think it only runs to 8ft so it probably won't make much difference.

I *know* Jema is joking about the weedkiller...tempting but not appropriate, or ethical, I think. Of course I've always wondered about double digging right up to your own boundaries, I don't know where that falls in the law.

I think lettuce and things are meant to be most accommodating of shade; I'm almost certain Gardening Which? did a test on shady plots before we stopped subscribing due to it's general irrelevance to anything we do, but we still have them, and if nobody comes up with anything I'll take a look for you.

moggins

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:18 pm Post subject:
I have heard that a rusty nail driven into the base of the tree works wonders and is more environmentally friendly I would have done this ages ago if there wasn't a wire fence in between me and them I can't really weedkill as they are only 2 feet away from my veggie patch and I don't want it leaching into my soil

Bugs

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:20 pm Post subject:
So I gather that they're not up for being cooperative then? Even if you offer to do it, and dispose of the logs (which I think you can use in the garden) and the leaves (shred and compost or use for the paths).

moggins

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:20 pm Post subject:

Thanks Bugs, looks like I stuck my lettuces in the wrong place then?

I do want to grow some more salad leaves like Rocket, etc so maybe I can do that.

What about potatoes? I'm just about to get some seed spuds, could I stick them in there?

Asking them nicely is not an alternative, these are the one we had to get the police to after they threatened him indoors with violence after he politely asked them to stop parking over our driveway and blocking my car in.

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jema
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:21 pm Post subject:

Bugs wrote:

I *know* Jema is joking about the weedkiller...tempting but not appropriate, or ethical, I think. Of course I've always wondered about double digging right up to your own boundaries, I don't know where that falls in the law.

Mostly joking, but I did hear of one incredibly legally expensive and life consuming Leylandii dispute, which most definately had me thinking that the consequences of the eh direct approach could only have been better than the nightmare that was occurring

But yes ethically reasonable negotiations are the way to go.

Bugs

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:23 pm Post subject:
The one where someone shot/stabbed their neighbour, and then hung themselves before they could be charged? Is this helping, Moggins?

moggins

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:24 pm Post subject:
Not a lot, no!!

Bugs

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:27 pm Post subject:
Ah well. What about taking him/her a bunch of herbs and a lettuce and saying "there'll be more where this comes from if you let me get the chainsaw out?".

moggins

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:30 pm Post subject:
How do I say this politely? He's about 20 with a bleached blonde girlfriend, plays in a 'band' and wouldn't know a lettuce if you shoved it up his back passage! Jema's idea is looking very appealing, I would only need to kill off two of them

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:51 pm Post subject:
I think cabbages will grow in some shade and I would try the potatoes as well. I do think people need a licence before owning a property or garden, I heard my neighbour today trying to take a frog out of his pond and kill the frogs spawn he had.

moggins

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 7:58 pm Post subject:
Didn't you leap over and drown him in his pond?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 8:02 pm Post subject:
I live in hope that one day both of them will fall in and not make it out. I'm glad to say that we have at least 10 clumps of frog spawn and some toad spawn and they only had one. Frogs are great judges of character.

Bugs

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 9:56 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Frogs are great judges of character.

Toads aren't bad either

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