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cab



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 3:34 pm    Post subject: Peas  Reply with quote    

If, like me, you find that pea seedlings sometimes get taken very quickly by garden pests, you might want to consider sowing them indoors. However, peas really don't like being transplanted, it's important that you don't disturb their tap root.

Try filling kitchen roll tubes with compost, water them well, stack them tight into a trough and grow your peas in there. When you want to plant out, plant the whole tube without disturbing the root.

dougal



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Cab - thats a 9 inch biodegradeable rootrainer... by the time you are using that depth, surely the topgrowth will be fiendishly entangled - esp if the tubes are packed close together. (Or is there a cunning plan I'm unaware of?)
I'd guess you're suggesting cutting the tubes - in two or three?

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dougal wrote:
Cab - thats a 9 inch biodegradeable rootrainer... by the time you are using that depth, surely the topgrowth will be fiendishly entangled - esp if the tubes are packed close together. (Or is there a cunning plan I'm unaware of?)
I'd guess you're suggesting cutting the tubes - in two or three?


I'm not suggesting that you wait till the root makes it all the way down to the bottom; I'm sure you'd get away with cutting, say, the bottom third off the tube. Toiler roll tubes tend to be a little too short.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Has anyone tried using the Sarah Raven's peas in a piece of guttering? The idea is that you fill a piece of guttering with soil, plant seeds and germinate. Then in a little trench slide the whole thing into it.

mochyn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 05 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treac: my old cha['s trying the 'peas in a gutter' idea: we'll let you know how it goes.

Nanny



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 05 7:53 pm    Post subject: peas Reply with quote    

i have done peas in guttering for a coupel of years and i have to say it does work well.............the only thing you have to remember is to give them a good water the evening before the morning you plant them out. otherwise you can't slide them off the end of the gutter.

is does work quite well though.i have suspended 2 or 3 pipes one above the other in the greenhouse with success.

hello by the way................got my own 'pooter now so don't have to wait to be at work to join in.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 05 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think we'll also try a row in a piece of gutter as well this year.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 05 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks for that Nanny...it's difficult when you consider that we pair with our limited experience, are about the most dedicated growers/cooks we know (in real life, not here )

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 05 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hm...So its not too early for peas then?.....The gutter idea.....How do you do this?....surely the gutter would be too shallow to support the pea plants?..Someone enlighten me, please?

Bugs



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You sow the seeds in a length of guttering or half drainpipe, in some compost/soil etc. Put it somewhere semi sheltered to encourage germination.

When the seedlings are well up and looking strong, you clear out a row in your veg patch that is as near as you can get to the size and shape of your drainpipe.

Then you slide out the whole row in to the row in the veg patch - no pricking out or planting up or any such nonsense.

Voila, ready made veg patch, with seedlings grown protected from mice etc, possibly a little earlier than you would manage sowing straight in the ground, giving you a little more time to get your veg patch prepared.

I'm not sure of the exact compost you would use, sowing densities etc. If Nanny is about today perhaps she'll give more details, but if you're desperate to get going (have we got any drainpipe spare Treacodactyl??? ) you might have a look on Google or better still the Telegraph, for "Sarah Raven", peas, and drainpipe (hmmm - if you do it on Google turn off the adult search first ). It's not like she invented it but she's very big on it and has done it a few times on Gardener's World and I'm sure also in her Telegraph columns.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

bung them in loo rolls - takes up a lot less space, and you can sow in succession. (This is me hedging all my bets in case one lot fails - at least if i succession sow it will only be a little lot!)

mochyn



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We first learned of the drainpipe trick from the great Geoff but have only just got round to it. They're coming up in the polytunnel now. Prehaps some fleece is in order tonight, though.

selfsufficientish



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Another thing you can try is newspaper pots similar to the toilet roll idea really, only the paper rots down quicker than cardboard.

Incidently many herbs do not like to transpanted either, which would have been nice to have know before I planted my corriander last time. It bolted an went to seed in a matter of weeks. Parsley is another one ledgend had it that if you transplanted parsley bad luck would befall your household for the next year.

heres how to make newspaper pots http://www.selfsufficientish.com/newspaperpots.htm

mochyn



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Another parsley legend is that it only grows in a house where the woman wears the trousers, but that can't be true because I've never succeeded with it. Funnily enough, though, the old chap says it's definitely true

Nanny



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 05 5:49 pm    Post subject: peas Reply with quote    

i have done the toilet roll thing and the gutter thing both equally well but the gutter thing i find easier because you draw the hoe down the length of the row to the right depth and then just slide the whole lot in at once and they are all in the right place, just a bit of tidying up

the down side is having several long pieces of guttering in the green house but i have always found that they germinate fairly quickly so it isn't too inconvenient...............i try to do successional sowings but don't always get to it, just using compost that i pick up from a garden center but always peat free....my own compost isn't good enough frankly and i just dig that in to the plots

i have given up trying to do things too early so won't put them in the greenhouse until sometime in march

by the way i use those victorian climbing peas from www.victoriana.ws and have had success, lots and lots of peas and i grow them like i would sweet peas or runnner beans


it works for me...........

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