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12Bore



Joined: 15 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 14 8:47 pm    Post subject: Precision logging  Reply with quote    

Impressive!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493&set=vb.100007366990357&type=2&theater

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 14 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

there is so much wrong with that that the only right thing is the way it dropped

dismantle rather than drop might have been sensible

hns re saw,petrol,man positions etc etc

the cut didnt seem to have a hinge or a gate

im amazed it went where it needed to and that the butt did not jump was extra lucky

i would not work with them or employ them

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 14 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Not would I Dpack. No helmet, although there is one in the foreground. I would definitely go for cut into sections and lower. The moral though is not to plant a potentially big tree near buildings or not to build near a potentially big tree. That isn't big for a Dougie though. Saw that a little while ago on husbands Forestry Forum. Even the cutter didn't have absolute faith it would go the right way, and even so it didn't do the decking much good.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 14 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

like this

well maybe lower all the bits but it isnt much different to what they should have done

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 14 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's far less exciting.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 14 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i prefer less exciting if i might get squashed

crofter



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 14 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Don't think there was any danger of getting squished there, except maybe the house! Taking it down in pieces would have taken much longer, you could rebuild that little bit of deck many times over in the time saved by felling it like they did, plus they ended up with a nice piece of timber...

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
the cut didnt seem to have a hinge or a gate

No, but the video was not of a high enough quality to be sure of that: I'm thinking it must've been there and we just can't see it.

What is to the right of the picture or behind the camera?
Presumably whatever it is prevents them from felling in those directions, so might also make it very tricky to dismantle.
A sound tree will nearly always go exactly where you point it, but it is not easy to point a tree so exactly. I wouldn't fancy it, but I'd certainly like to give the customer that option, provided he signs the disclaimer.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There is what looks like an electricity pole on the right, so I would suspect there is a power line across there.

Still not the sort of thing I would have anyone do near my house. I am not so sure about trees always going where you point them. Very few trees are dead straight all the way up with a completely even canopy, and it only takes a slight wind to send them off course as well. Conifers like that are easier than broadleaves, but you wouldn't believe the mess some of them can get themselves into even if they are not very tall.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mistress Rose wrote:
I am not so sure about trees always going where you point them.

I always inspect my hinge after a fell, especially if it did not go quite where I wanted it: most always the reason that it didn't is evidenced by the cut.
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Very few trees are dead straight all the way up with a completely even canopy, and it only takes a slight wind to send them off course as well.
A good hinge should steer it straight. Though as already observed: there is not much evidence of a hinge on the video.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The video quality was poor,first time i watched it ,it looked like the man was cutting from the direction of fall,
It would naturally have a V cut in the direction of fall,and i would`nt be surprised if there was a rope from the tree to the tractor taking up tension.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Pause vid at 1:14 / 1:15 looks like pivoting on a v cut to me.



Ty Gwyn wrote:
i would`nt be surprised if there was a rope from the tree to the tractor taking up tension.


I had wondered that, but not something I have experience of and wondered if that tractor is heavy enough to do that.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

having had a few more views of the video

i cant see anything that looks like a hinge.
the way the trunk slipped off the butt makes me think there must have been a gate but it isnt visible as far as i can see.

or for that matter any hint of a tension rope .

watching the last stage it seems that the wedges were what tipped it over,perhaps it was leaning a bit in the right direction but as above centre of gravity issues even with a fairly strait tree can be a bit unpredictable.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Whatever way you look at it, it worked.

Jam Lady



Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 14 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

When Paul cuts trees he makes a felling notch, then makes a cut from the opposite side, higher up. He calls it a hinge.

Back in October 2010 a friend helped drop a tree too big for Paul to tackle. He used wedges, which really interested me as it was not a technique with which we were familiar.



This happened up in the wood lot, so no house to drop it on. None-the-less, it went just where it was wanted to fall.

Of course I made an entry for my web site, which you can see here: http://www.bellewood-gardens.com/2010/Making%20Firewood_2010-12.html

There are some pictures of firewood, the tree he took down, and cutting it up.

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