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Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 06 5:33 pm    Post subject: Raising Pigs Reply with quote
    

Our farmer is getting some GOS weaner pigs to grow on for food, and I'm thinking of asking him if we can add one or two to the herd for us to grow on. I've read through Nick Howe's excellent article, but have a few dumb questions.

How much, on average does it cost to provide food for a piggy from moving in to dinner status?

I saw from the article that two pigs cost £110 to slaughter - is this about average, and would just one be about half that, or is there normally discount for bulk?

Now really dumb question ... when they come back from the abbatoir, are they just whole dead pigs, or can you have them butchered to your requirements before they come back? If so, how much would that usually cost?

I not so worried about the keeping bit, as the farmer will do all that - just the costs involved, and the end product, so I'd be grateful for any advice.....

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 06 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Raising Pigs Reply with quote
    

It normally costs us around £30 a pig to kill & cut up, but that is for a porker & it goes on weight, so a heavy baconer will be more. It depends on your abattoir/butcher as to how they come back, we have an abattoir who also butchers, some will just kill & you'll have to get a butcher to do the rest (or yourself if you've got the ability)- ask them well in advance (around now) what services they offer.

Feeding cost really depends how heavy/age you kill them at. They eat about 1lb of feed for every month of age each day, so by six months they'll be eating 6lb a day each. Feed can be as variable as butchering cost, but @ £250/tonne that's £6-25 for a 25kg bag, so you could work that out for yourself.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

At around £6 a bag (which is what it would cost you to buy the bags directly), it should cost around £55 to feed from 8 to 24 weeks. Plus the cost of one weaner, lets say £45. It costs us around £55 for slaughter and full butchering (ie all joints boned and rolled, sausages made etc). So comes out at around £155 all in.

There can be a big difference in costs of weaners though £35 - £65. The farmer may well get them at the cheap end, and he may well get food in bulk, so cutting the cost down considerably. If I do 5 weaners then I can get the feed costs down to around £42 each, and that is still bagged feed.

Hope this helps.
James

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks, Rob and James, that's really useful information. It will work out much cheaper than buying them by the half from the pig farm up the road, and I'll know they have had a good life too

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Penny wrote:
Thanks, Rob and James, that's really useful information. It will work out much cheaper than buying them by the half from the pig farm up the road, and I'll know they have had a good life too


And cheaper or not, it's sure to taste better

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've just had mine killed and butchered. It'll vary lots, from place to place, would be my experience.

I had 4 pigs, three a shade under 100kg, and one a shade over. £30 a pig under, £37 over, to kill and dress. I could then take them home and home butcher, but at this time of year I had them do it for me. Total bill for all four, killed and butchered was £280, so about £150 to butcher.

They also made sausages for a further £22 for 17kg.

Weaners cost between £30 and £60, and food will cost an amount, depending on how much you have to buy, what you buy, and how long you feed them for. It works out a shade under £200 per pig for me, but I confess I don't keep them to a fixed timetable, rather they fit around me, and I probably let them run to too much fat.

Penny, I'm only down the road, and you'd be welcome to come and see my next lot.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

On a similar note (and for similar reasons) how much is a bale of hay? ish will be fine.

alison
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

about £1 - £2, depending on quality, time of year etc

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's what I thought - thanks.

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 06 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
Penny, I'm only down the road, and you'd be welcome to come and see my next lot.
Thanks Nick - we'd love to do that, when the next lot arrive

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 06 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Got one coming tomorrow

It's a large white apparently, I know nothing else about it. Farmer had to have two, so as not to keep one on its own, but really only want one for themselves, and was going to try and sell the other to friends. So when I suggested we would like to add one to theirs, they said immediately, that we could have the second one

Bloody hell, in the space of two days, we are now the proud owners of four chickens, and a pig Wonder what's going to happen tomorrow

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 06 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Penny wrote:
Wonder what's going to happen tomorrow


A cow?

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 06 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Penny wrote:
Wonder what's going to happen tomorrow


A cow?

Leonie



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 06 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ooooh congrats Penny home grown pig is delicious, post a photo when you can

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 06 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you want to se your stock numbers soar: bees! From single figures to 10s of 1000s in seconds!

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