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Bugs



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 8:48 am    Post subject: Hosepipe bans call in South East Reply with quote
    

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4744862.stm

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Water companies in south-east England are being urged to introduce hosepipe bans to avoid the introduction of more extreme water-saving measures.
The recommendation has come from the Environment Agency, which said in a new report that the region remained in a "serious situation".


Our water company has already made ominous noises in the latest newsletter so I don't think they need any "calls".

Might just have to risk another delivery from the council's composter/water butt offer (which as far as I can see is the same offer for the rest of the Western world). We've been looking for water butts for months locally but they've usually been given a good kicking and had all their accessories and prices removed before we get to them. I really wish there was a more efficient way of getting water from the bath to outside - we are in a bungalow and our house is at the bottom of the garden, if you stand about half way up the garden you're level with the tip of the roof, so the first person who says "syphon" may find themselves in sudden unexpected pain

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A small cheap water pump, I know they are sold for around £15.00 upwards at certain DIY stores. Obviously not a syphon

Lozzie



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Would I say "syphon"? Huh! As IF!

Bugs



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bernie66 wrote:
A small cheap water pump, I know they are sold for around £15.00 upwards at certain DIY stores. Obviously not a syphon


Are they? Can you show me a picture of one? Are they quite sturdy? How are they powered? I think we would seriously consider this if it was long lasting as we could use it in the future anyway, hosepipe bans or not.

And would they cope with the shampoo/soap etc that would inevitably be in bathwater?

Lozzie



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bugs, do you live near a decent aquarium shop? They often sell pumps that are rated srtongly enough to power quite big water features and filtering systems in ponds etc - they should be able to advise you.

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

will have a hunt around, bear with me. Some are designed for "dirty water" i.e. emptying flooded basements etc so I would imagine they would cope with your bathwater

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

https://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101407&ts=71656&id=21790

And you can buy miles of blue, external water piping to fit it for nothing at a builders merchant. I think I paid a tenner for 50 metres last year. Soap's not going to hurt pumps like that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The problem with a hoze pipe ban is that AFAIK it's illegal to use a hose to siphon water (via a pump) out of the bath with a hose. I'm sure I could rig something up to pump the water out of the baths waste pipe directly into a water butt, we have a spare pond pump after all.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Plus, you could bury the pipe and no one would know it was there.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
The problem with a hoze pipe ban is that AFAIK it's illegal to use a hose to siphon water (via a pump) out of the bath with a hose.


That is absolutely ridiculous - what reasoning do they give for that decision

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

https://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/sea/searchresults.jsp?_dyncharset=UTF-8&q=water+pump&pn=1&pd=1&pi=1&cn=1&cd=1&x=5&y=6




Are the type of things I had in mind.

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Someone is always a bit quicker than me

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bernie wrote:
Treacodactyl wrote:
The problem with a hoze pipe ban is that AFAIK it's illegal to use a hose to siphon water (via a pump) out of the bath with a hose.


That is absolutely ridiculous - what reasoning do they give for that decision


We need Behemoth to answer that one. I think the main reason is so people don't siphon the water out of a bath and then run the cold tap and get round the ban that way. However, in *real* life responsible people like me will abide by the hose pipe ban and everyone else in the street will carry on using them to wash down their patios, cars etc and water their lawns. Grrrr.

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Anyone know if the ban would apply to me, as I'm not on the grid for water, at either in, or out?

The well is on my property, and although it's not possible to prove, all my land is above the well, so the water in it arguably is water that fell on my land, and therefore MINE!

Course, the downside is I have no pressure, so the hose is a pointless device, but I'd be interested to know.

Presumably, waterboards are producing the ban, and this they can only apply to their customers (so they can't restrict customers of neighbouring waterboards), so they can't touch me?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 06 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

IIRC you don't own the water on your land!

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