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Wombat



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: SW Cheshire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 04 7:54 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

I don't remember there being a season for rabbits, thats why there are so many of the damn things around.
Went out on Monday night with lamp on my two acre field, shot 2 out of 8 that were grazing around. So, so many, making such a mess

Wombat

Jonnyboy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 04 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Very strange, I always follow the old adage that you only shoot them when there's an 'R'in the month.

Although over here it's been a quiet year for them, very wet and cold

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 04 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Deerstalker wrote:
When I said "season", I meant better eating!


So you're after some spices for them?

anneka



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 158

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 04 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I always understood that the month with an R in it, was more to do with the quality of the rabbits than to fit in with a reproductive system. I thought that they reproduced all year round anyway - probably ignorance on my part. Quality of the rabbit is probably something to do with condition in the females?

Did see the first mixy rabbit I have seen for months though yesterday, by way of conversation.

Anneka

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 04 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've found them at their fattest from May through to October, when the food's most plentiful. As vermin, like pigeons, there's no official 'season', and these days they do seem to breed all year round.

judyofthewoods



Joined: 29 Jan 2005
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Location: Pembrokeshire
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 05 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Vermin or not, no animal should ever suffer unnecessarily, referring to young left starving. But if they do breed all year round, it seems a difficult dilemma, and would seem to leave only live trapping with frequent inspection as the only humane-ish way, making sure one is only killing non-lactating females or male animals, at least in the milder south, if global warming should be responsible. Has anyone in the north found the same as deerstalker?

judyofthewoods



Joined: 29 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 05 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

In your situation I think what you are doing is the best solution, as you say, others would do it, possibly less humanly. I think shooting is the most humane for the animal about to die, and if eaten saves another farmed animal from being eaten. At least the rabbit enjoyed freedom, for what its worth, and had an unsuspcting quick end.

judyofthewoods



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 05 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

All but a vegan would be in a position to criticise anyone for shooting for food. Trouble is the way meat is marketed, its so sanetised, a chunk of something in a plastic container, far removed from the factory farmed animal, the lorry ride, the abatoir. If all meat was sold the way one local butcher does, who hangs whole carcasses on the wall outside, then people would have a more realistic view on meat and where it comes from.

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 05 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    



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cab



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

judyofthewoods wrote:
All but a vegan would be in a position to criticise anyone for shooting for food.


A vegan has to eat food that takes up farming space, which necessitates that less land is available for other wild species of plant and animal. In effect, a vegan is as indirectly responsible for animal death as anyone else.

judyofthewoods



Joined: 29 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Cab wrote:
judyofthewoods wrote:
All but a vegan would be in a position to criticise anyone for shooting for food.


A vegan has to eat food that takes up farming space, which necessitates that less land is available for other wild species of plant and animal. In effect, a vegan is as indirectly responsible for animal death as anyone else.


The vegan argument goes that less land is necessary to feed people on vegetable protein than is needed for livestock farming, but you are right, whatever we eat, we are responsible for death, its the way of nature. The bottom line is not to eat and consume* excessively, do it as ethically as we can, keep our own numbers down, and there will be enough to go around for everyone and everything, i.e. not just humans.
*by consume I mean as in use of resources, which all destroys habitat through direct depleteon (mining, quarrying, logging, farming, distribution network) and poisoning.

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Cab wrote:
judyofthewoods wrote:
All but a vegan would be in a position to criticise anyone for shooting for food.


A vegan has to eat food that takes up farming space, which necessitates that less land is available for other wild species of plant and animal. In effect, a vegan is as indirectly responsible for animal death as anyone else.


That seems to be pushing the hypothetical argument a bit far if you ask me. The only people who could question meat eaters would be those who only ate fallen fruit after asking all the wildlife around if they aren't hungry.

McLay455



Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Location: West of Scotland
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 05 9:10 am    Post subject: Season for rabbits Reply with quote    

As my old poacher pal used to say

You should only shoot rabbits if the day ends in a Y!!

DarrenG



Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

well gassing cant be done anymore, some people prefer milky does, and if you kill a lactating rat take the babies if you find them to Judy to hand rear, and surely a dog caught rabbit is the most ethical way to control the rabbit population that you want to eat, as it doesnt use any of the earths sources such as lead(shooting), and its either dead or away

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 05 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jonnyboy wrote:

That seems to be pushing the hypothetical argument a bit far if you ask me. The only people who could question meat eaters would be those who only ate fallen fruit after asking all the wildlife around if they aren't hungry.


You mean fruitarians? You do get them.

I think it's important that just like we omnivores have to be aware of how our food is produced and what the environmental and ethical issues are, a vegan or vegetarian must have the same considerations. If you're a vegan because you believe that harming animals is unethical, you must face the reality that growing plants for food hurts animals. It's unavoidably true. That doesn't mean that a vegetarian or vegan can't question an omnivore, but it does mean that there are some pointed questions that can be asked back.

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