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tahir



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 7:27 am    Post subject: Where does all the rapeseed go? Reply with quote
    

Essex as usual is full of the pungent aroma of oilseed rape in flower, just wondered what happens to the crop after harvest, the only rape seed I've ever seen on sale in a supermarket was from Belgium

Lozzie



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A lot of the UK rapeseed is used in the processed food indurstry, rather than sold to the public in its natural form.

I found this on the net -

"ADM DIRECT



Through ADM Direct, farmers in the UK now have the opportunity to build a mutually beneficial business partnership with ADM and to sell rapeseed and wheat, directly to the processor. The new partnership affords ADM continuity of supply and improved traceability, and reaffirms ADM's strategy to forge closer links with its farmer suppliers.

ADM Erith's rapeseed processing facility is the largest in the UK, consuming around 2/3 of all the rapeseed grown in Britain. By dealing through ADM Direct, farmers can now access accurate, first-hand market information, allowing them to make better-informed marketing decisions. They have access to the best movement positions into ADM Erith, allowing their rapeseed to be transported when they want. Through ADM Direct, farmers now have an invaluable point of contact at the final destination. All quality premiums are paid directly to the farmer, in full.

Increasing numbers of farmers are working with ADM Direct and gaining real benefit from the partnership.

ADM Direct also offers a range of marketing packages to allow farmers to optimise farm storage and cash flow demands.

ADM Milling, with ten flourmills across England and Scotland, is one of the largest processors of biscuit and bread making wheat in Britain. Through ADM Direct, wheat farmers can now build a mutually beneficial partnership with their customer and gain a real benefit by working in concert with a major flour miller.
"

ADM is an American company based in Illinois. It sounds like a huge company, but I had never heard of them before.

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Excellent, thanks Loz, one of life's great mysteries resolved just like that...

Lozzie



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I just KNEW my life had purpose somewhere

Gervase



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Much of it goes for marge, and the rest for the fat in processed foods. We'd be better off using it in our cars, of course...

sally_in_wales
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I use a teeny bit of it it my soapmaking too! (the oil and tallow soap in based on Tudor records of rapeseed being a popular soaping oil)

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

And to account for a little more, I put 20 litres of the stuff in every ton of pig feed

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I love the way the little piggy smiley thing's nose flashes pink. Hadn't spotted him before

Haddock



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Here in mainland Europe Rapeseed oil is used as a cooking oil and is found in supermarkets (cholesterol free). It also processed for Bio Diesel

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sally_in_wales wrote:
I love the way the little piggy smiley thing's nose flashes pink. Hadn't spotted him before


Oh yeah!! Very cute!

I wish, wherever it went to, it would hurry up and get there. My poor DD is sneezing like mad

dougal



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think most (all?) of the "rapeseed" grown in the UK isn't ordinary rape - rather its the particular version called "Canola", which has the advantage of not having poisonous things that have to be extracted before the oil can be eaten... (or used for cooking).
Canola Oil, is I believe the basis of much of the UK's "Vegetable" Oil...
And yes, the Methyl Ester of Rapeseed oil is the classic "Biodiesel".

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

So that's what canola is...

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If its canola, it should say so on the bottle if its in cooking oil. Apparently they arent similar enough to be called the same thing -had all this with the soap certification, saponified canola oil is sodium canolate, saponified rapeseed is just saponified oil of brassica whateveritis (sinepsis?? too late to remember right now), was all very confusing at the time.

dougal



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 06 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
So that's what canola is...

Canadian (varieties of rape) oil...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola



sally_in_wales wrote:
If its canola, it should say so on the bottle if its in cooking oil. Apparently they arent similar enough to be called the same thing -had all this with the soap certification...

My guess would be that it would come down to the fact that that Canola contains much less acid. And so your "lye" (alkali) quantity would need to be adjusted accordingly... Because (virtually?) all UK rapeseed oil is from the Canola varieties, even if its called "rapeseed", its likely to be Canola...

Joey



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 06 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Two main oilseed rape crushers in UK are Cargill in Liverpool and ADM in Erith (Just on the borders of you Kingdom, King Tahir!!)

The oil is used in bog standard cooking oil (if its not being labelled as sunflower, maize or olive then the chances are it's rape oil. It is also used in further processing for food, cosmetics etc.
The extracted meal is a useful protein component of animal feeds.

The varieties grown for food and feed use are described as Double zero "00" . This means the oil is low in erucic acid (doesn't mean the oil is low acidity, all fats are made up of fatty acids and glycerol.
Erucic acid forms fatty deposits around the heart an there is a maximum legal limit for it in foodstuffs. The second zero means the
meal is low in glucosinolates which are hot mustardy tasting substances which make the meal less palatable and a little bit toxic.

A small ammount of whole rapeseed is used in chicken feed.

A small ammount of High erucic acid rape (HERA) is grown under contract in the UK as the erucic acid is used in high performance lubricants.

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