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joanne



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 10:44 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

bodger wrote:
I kill rabbits for food and because I enjoy it.


I think that is fine as long as it doesn't become just "because I enjoy it" - Indiscrimnate killing of any kind is abhorent in my book

My son is very interested in learning how to shoot game properly but its finding someone take him under his/her wing and show him how to do it properly as well as the less attractive aspects of paunching and skinning

He can shoot very well - before his grandad died he used to teach him and his sister (currently 10 and 12) how to shoot with an air rifle as well as gun ettiquette.

Joanne

Snap Cap



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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Location: Outside a warren armed to the teeth.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A good point. I have often found myself out in the field with my gun and I don't need to be out there, the freezer is full. Its almost instict if you like to go out.

Shooting game with an Air rifle is generally frowned upon by the shooting fraternity. Its more as you say etiquete to use a shotty to do the job. But that not to say you can't use an Air rifle, what you have to take into conideration is the size of some game and the stopping power of the gun.

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jocorless wrote:


My son is very interested in learning how to shoot game properly but its finding someone take him under his/her wing and show him how to do it properly as well as the less attractive aspects of paunching and skinning



Joanne

I know the problem well, i have been loking for someone to take me out and show me the ropes for about 5 years in total and most people dont want to share their secrets or their hunting lands which i understand but there must come a point when people are willing to help, luckily i have found someone who is willing to help me out when i eventually get a free weekend (booked up for the last 4 and the next 5 ) if he has remembered, if not i will remind him gently nearer the time.

gil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have to admit I'm looking forward to the start of the pheasant season. I shoot for food, and for being outdoors in a different way from growing or foraging. I'm self-taught, with some initial help from a friend, and a lot of outdoor target practice, but I do find my skill/aim goes if I don't keep in practice either through the year or before the season starts.

Old-Chads-Orchard



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Malpas, Cheshire
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if you are using a fixed hid peg out range markers at 5yrd intervals up to the warren, if you have zeroed the scope it is just your range perception is off, everything seems closer in 2D.
Personally I use a scope mounted lamp.
Another trick to use is to get some rechargable garden lamps put out about 10yrds from the hole with the side facing you blanked out with tape. You dont need NV then, just give the bunnies a few nights to get used to thier new street lighting and them lay up in the dark and pop em off. Worked okay for me except some animal kept knocking them down, never saw what it was.

Silas



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: Staffordshire
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you shoot it and eat it then great! If you shoot it and enjoy shooting it and eat it - great.

If you enjoy shooting it just for fun, then I think you are a pretty sick individual.

Old-Chads-Orchard



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You forgot shooting for pest control

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

a few hours in the dark and you'll get it sighted in .
chopped carrots n twilight

Silas



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 06 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

offroading.net wrote:
You forgot shooting for pest control


Err

No I didn't.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Silas wrote:
offroading.net wrote:
You forgot shooting for pest control


Err

No I didn't.


Well you didn't mention it

Silas wrote:
If you shoot it and eat it then great! If you shoot it and enjoy shooting it and eat it - great.

If you enjoy shooting it just for fun, then I think you are a pretty sick individual.


I'm not sure I'd like to each a hundred rats after Bodger's been out for the day.

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

So Silas.

You wouldn't want me to shoot the rat that was nicking your cheese off the kitchen table ?

You wouldn't want me to shoot the grey squirrels that were stripping the bark off your tee plantation that you'd spent hundreds of hours tending ?

You wouldn't want me to shoot the magpie that was slaughtering
the thrush chicks in your hedge that you'd watched go through all the stages just to see them massacred ?

I think that if you think about it, you will agree that pest control is a legitimate reason for bumping something off

Bodge
I hold the RSH in pest control with distinction . I'll have you know! Pretty cool eh?
I've also got a cycling proficciency and lenght certificate somewhere.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

bodger wrote:
You wouldn't want me to shoot the grey squirrels that were stripping the bark off your tee plantation that you'd spent hundreds of hours tending ?


They go into the eating category. Do you enjoy shooting pests though? I've shot the odd rat and just this morning caught a couple of mice from the kitchen and I'm happy that I've done a good job but wouldn't say I enjoyed it.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I enjoy making a good shot or using my skills to trap something when doing my pest control. A job well done and all that.
Its not all about enjoyment though' otherwise I'd be shooting blue tits and thrushes and the like.
Its about doing some thing well, that I also consider to be usefull and beneficial.
If a magpie strays to close to me when I have a gun in my hand I shoot it . I also try to keep a Larson trap set for them and for every one I account for I think that I've done my little bit for the survival of the song birds in my area.
I like to think that my approach to what I do is a practical one.
Whilst it might not work for everyone,it works for me !

joanne



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Snap Cap wrote:
Shooting game with an Air rifle is generally frowned upon by the shooting fraternity.


I meant that he had learnt to shoot using an Air Rifle not that he would use an Air Rifle to shoot game

hedgewitch



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Location: Daft wench GHQ
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 06 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bodger, as a city kid through and through, I didn't really get the hunting thing even though I now live out in the countryside.

Then I got a young, rescue sight hound. Then I learned what he was for. And now I'm learning how to work him. And I love it! I agree with views on not killing for no reason. But hunting is thrilling, exciting, addictive... and we haven't actually caught anything yet

I also have to say I've met the most brilliant, helpful group of people since getting him, all willing to share their own knowledge and skills with us. Some of the best people I've ever met. I just wish I'd had the chance to learn all this when I was a lot younger.

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