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hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 10:30 pm Post subject:
Nogin the Nog

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 10:31 pm Post subject:

Mary-Jane wrote:

Gervase wrote:

Doh...In the lands of the North, where the Black Rocks stand guard against the cold sea, in the dark night that is very long the Men of the Northlands sit by their great log fires and they tell a tale...
A tale of a small chap trying to advertise Cornetto ice-cream and failing to realise that, by holding the damned things upside down, he keeps getting sticky cuffs.

Twit...coming to bed?

That gets him asked to bed

now who's bonkers!!

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 10:33 pm Post subject:

Penny wrote:

Mary-Jane wrote:

Gervase wrote:

Twit...coming to bed?

That gets him asked to bed

now who's bonkers!!

Oh, dunno... could fall for a man that appreciates Nogin the Nog myself...

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 10:54 pm Post subject:
Have mine - many a long car journey has been made longer

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 11:00 pm Post subject:
At least it's better than Lord of the Rings Am grateful mr hw is not into LOTR - i used to work with a bunch of blokes who were obsessed with it I felt so sorry for their wives and girlfriends... well, the one or two that had a wife/girlfriend, that is

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 06 11:09 pm Post subject:
I loved LOTR when I was younger and still love the book

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 7:20 am Post subject:

Ok as this thread has been well & truly hijacked & has gone from a livestock question to the rights & wrongs of trapping magpies, Gervase's chat up lines & a literature revue.

Why is it right & legal to trap corvids but not badgers.
(I can here the gun turrets turning towards Cornwall as I type)

I pose this question because in areas with a high badger population
the hedgehog population is virtually non existent.
Surely it's a case of economics over enviroment. If corvids were not a pest of game I'm sure they would be protected to.
But the hedgehog population in this area is so low I have seen signs once in the last ten years & seen one or three road kill in the same period.
As the hedgehog is becoming more threatened isn't it time we allowed the control of badgers?

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 7:23 am Post subject:
Ps. Noggin the Nog is cool but Ivor the engine rules.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 8:01 am Post subject:

Mainly because 'beautiful' people think that the British countryside and its wildlife is a wonderful sensitive eco system that has balanced and managed itself for hundreds of years.

They fail to realise that what we have now is the result of mans management over many generations and that very little of what we have now scenery wise etc, is natural.
To thrive in the way that most people concieve as being nice and wild our countrside needs to be managed and balanced by man !

Tavascarow

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Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 8:10 am Post subject:
So would you condone the control of badgers in areas where the hedgehog is threatened?

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 8:17 am Post subject:
IF it was proven that there was a correlation between badger numbers and hedgehog numbers AND if it could be proven that by controlling badgers hedghog numbers would improve, then I think measures should be considered. We have always lived in a controlled countryside ,so to suddenly wash our hands of this responsibility would be folly.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 9:17 am Post subject:

I don't know if it has been "proven" (which usualy means someone has a vested interest & is prepared to pay for the proving.)
But through talking with others the general consensus is that rolling up in a ball might be affective against foxes cats & dogs but against a badgers claws it's no defence at all.
Here we have a very high badger population (probably one of the highest in the country) & a very low hedgehog population.
I would love to see more hedgehogs. There is plenty of food here, loads of places to hibernate, mild winters but very few hedgehogs.

Lionheart

Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Posts: 427
Location: Cheshire

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 9:31 am Post subject:
Personally, I trap hedgehogs with a Larson trap and then boil them alive in a vat of bubbling old motor oil as we're over-run with the damned spikey things and they devastate the ground nesting bird population around here.

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 9:39 am Post subject:

ReevesRareBreeds wrote:

Personally, I trap hedgehogs with a Larson trap and then boil them alive in a vat of bubbling old motor oil as we're over-run with the damned spikey things and they devastate the ground nesting bird population around here.

Was just preparing a sensible contribution to this thread... but decided against it

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 06 9:52 am Post subject:
Don't boil them. Put them in the post to Cornwall. We have a lot of hungry badgers to feed.

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