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Behemoth

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 9:39 am Post subject: Residents back higher parking fees for 'gas guzzlers'
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6265837.stm

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 10:28 am Post subject:

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If they receive the necessary support, the new rules are expected to be in place within three months, said Mr Lourie.

This bit annoys me, if you bring in laws like this at least give the people affected a reasonable time frame to make the necessary changes. A cynic would think they want to penalise people rather than alter behaviour.

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 11:59 am Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

This bit annoys me, if you bring in laws like this at least give the people affected a reasonable time frame to make the necessary changes.

How long does it take to sell/trade-in your car and buy another then? A day, two days maybe.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:01 pm Post subject:
If you want to make a huge loss, then yes it would.

Behemoth

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:03 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

Jonnyboy wrote:

This bit annoys me, if you bring in laws like this at least give the people affected a reasonable time frame to make the necessary changes.

How long does it take to sell/trade-in your car and buy another then? A day, two days maybe.

When you're buying off the forecourt yes. But when you've got design your spec and detail, decide on the colour of the trim and finish etc and research you liability bands etc, the lead times are longer. The world is not Devon

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:06 pm Post subject:
Exactly. I used to work in Richmond. If you've bought a new BMW X5/Porsche Cayenne/Range Rover Vogue Se you're going to take a huge hit when you sell it anyway. Tough.

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:24 pm Post subject:
And presumably you'd have until your current permit expired to do something anyway. They'd be incredibly unlikely to make it retro-active.

Andy B

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:35 pm Post subject:
Does that mean that i can fit 2 atsras into the same ammount of parking space as 1 toyota surf? Dont think so, the surf is about 18 inches longer and i dont know of a car that would fitinto that space.

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:37 pm Post subject:
It's not keyed to footprint, it's linked to emissions.

Andy B

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:41 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

It's not keyed to footprint, it's linked to emissions.

But when its parked its not emiting owt!

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:42 pm Post subject:
And if you've got off-road parking you don't need a permit. The owners don't teleport the sodding things out of the borough.

Andy B

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:45 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

And if you've got off-road parking you don't need a permit. The owners don't teleport the sodding things out of the borough.

So you pay more for emmiting more, easy, that way if you drive lots no matter what you drive you pays more. Why complicate things. This sounds like car envy to me.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:45 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

They'd be incredibly unlikely to make it retro-active.

It happened with air tax.

Anyway, why do it at all. current taxation is linked to emission. Just petition the chancellor rather than thinking up a new way to shaft people in one particular borough.

sean
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:48 pm Post subject:
The link is pretty feeble though. And what's wrong with the idea of local democracy?

Andy B

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 07 12:53 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

The link is pretty feeble though. And what's wrong with the idea of local democracy?

A really horrible dictator is the only way to save the planet, democracy is out.

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