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tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:06 pm    Post subject: Waterproof trousers  Reply with quote    

Where can I get a pair that'll last? Bought a pair in millets last year, ripped in several places already.

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Army surplus kit - Silverman's or your local surplus store will sell you British, German or Belgian waterproofs which are cheap enough to knacker and will keep the weather out. The newer British stuff is Goretex, so isn't so likely to introduce you to Betty Swollocks.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44283
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Didn't think of that, will nip down to Silverman's when i get the chance

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

my trews are german with braces ,
only cute in a twisted way but very practical
spray with goretex waterproofer for best performance especially the front knees .
2000 pattern british is ok but will rip on barbed wire etc
breathatex is soft
sympatex is good
goretex comes in 3 grades .get the tough one
new is silly prices ,2nd user is ace

anchor supplies do web sales , jj 's in sheffield or local or web

dougal



Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
spray with goretex waterproofer for best performance ...


Gimme detail !

I thought you couldn't get "ReviveX" in the UK?

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8439
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Go sheep shearing in any old pair of troiusers & they will be very water proof by the end of the day.


Justme

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 35908
Location: yes
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

imho to maintain breatheable waterproofs
wash with gentle setting
when dry treat with a water emulsion spray of "waterproofer for breatheable fabric" fronm the local outdoor shop
or
treat with silicone waterproofer either by dipping or spraying

mutton fat will probably work

dougal



Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Not so sure about the mutton or lanolin...
But thanks for the rest!

It has been suggested to me that my just slightly leaky goretex jacket needed to be washed in soap not detergent. (I *know* NO fabric conditioners...) but it seems to me that ironing and treating (not nec in that order) with some breathable fabric waterproofer is likely to be more effective.
I read that the ironing re-establishes the outer surface coating... (knew it had to be useful for something)

wellington womble



Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 14974
Location: East Midlands
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

PARAMO, PARAMO, PARAMO!

I know I've plugged them before, but they are absolutely the best waterproofs I've ever had. Had mine for five years, and they are a bit worn around the ankle, because I'm really short, so they rub, bu himself's are holding up fine. Just to give you an idea of the wear ours get, I have am on my third pair of walking boots in this time, and himself on his fourth (or possibly fifth!)

Waterproof, breathable, washable, re-waterproofable (wash in stuff) full length vents, and in my very considered opinon worth their weight in gold. About 80 quid, so not cheap, but worth every single penny. Paramo will reapair them and they are made by women in Brazil on a rehousing project who are paid a fair wage.

Buy some. I know they're costly but you never regret handing over the cash, and you'll never buy anything else.

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I love Paramo kit, but there's no way I'd use it for fencing, hedging and all the sort of work that guarantees it'll get shredded. For that it's the Army surplus cheapo stuff (with some of the seams held together with gaffer tape!) for me.

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 41983
Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Tahir's in Essex, it never rains anyway.
Wear shorts.

ian1



Joined: 12 Dec 2004
Posts: 314
Location: essex
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 07 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
Tahir's in Essex, it never rains anyway.
Wear shorts.


NEVER RAINS !

Ive been trying to finish a outside redec for the past 3 weeks , should have taken a week and a half , but it seems like every time i turn up here comes the rain , this in the blooming dry-est village in the county

Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 07 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dougal wrote:
Not so sure about the mutton or lanolin...
But thanks for the rest!

It has been suggested to me that my just slightly leaky goretex jacket needed to be washed in soap not detergent. (I *know* NO fabric conditioners...) but it seems to me that ironing and treating (not nec in that order) with some breathable fabric waterproofer is likely to be more effective.
I read that the ironing re-establishes the outer surface coating... (knew it had to be useful for something)


I've tride the 'just in soap flakes' route and unfortunately they don't get the coat clean.

Alternative routes is a bit of a faff but has worked:

Wash in conventional powder.

Then clean the powder tray of the machine and run a cycle of the hottest wash with nothing in it to clean the machine (worth doing everynow and then to stop crud building up).

Then wash in TecWash to get soapy crud a residue out of the garment. http://www.nikwax.co.uk/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=4&activityid=1

Then wash again in this to restore the proofing:
http://www.nikwax.co.uk/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=3&activityid=1

Once restored you can just ro the last one or two steps everynow and then.

dougal



Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 07 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks - I now have a shopping list!

JB



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7748
Location: 91 N
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 07 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Gervase wrote:
I love Paramo kit, but there's no way I'd use it for fencing, hedging and all the sort of work that guarantees it'll get shredded. For that it's the Army surplus cheapo stuff (with some of the seams held together with gaffer tape!) for me.


The only problem with Paramo is that their jackets seem to be designed for people with improbably long arms. Which is fine if it's bad enough to pull the cuffs in but if you want the cuffs loose for ventilation then they are constantly falling down.

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