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frewen



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 07 9:11 pm    Post subject: Garlic rust  Reply with quote    

Identified garlic rust on our plants earlier today.

Never mind - my question is - how long before we can try growing garlic in that spot again? Or should we not bother because it is not in direct sunlight all the time?

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No worries, I ALWAYS get garlic rust, how bad is it? I wouldn't plant my leeks next to the garlic but otherwise it's never usually a big enough problem to worry me.

Blue Sky



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mine are covered with it but seem to be struggling on ok.

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I noticed yesterday that they have formed large bulbs which are well below the surface and therefore quite damp. Would it be a good idea to remove some of the soil from the raised beds to expose them? I probably planted the cloves too deep.
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Does it spread to leeks then?

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'd leave them, just don't water anymore. Don't lift (if at all) until the leaves start yellowing.

Rust applies to all the onion family, if you plant out your leeks in June (like me) then it's best not to put them near your garlic to reduce infection risks.

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

On the depth thing I think they have an automatic depth regulating mechanism, the roots will pull the clove down or up to make sure it's at the right level.

bernie-woman



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I had rust last year on my garlic and some of my onions - I just left it and the bulbs and onions kept fine - don't uncover your garlic until the leaves go yellow

Blue Sky



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yellow? The leaves are all rust covered so no chance of any yellow. If it wasn't for the healthy looking bulbs I would say they were dead.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We've got a bad attack of rust on the garlic this year for the first time. Even though their are onions and shallots next to them it hasn't spread and the garlic bulbs seem fine. I've no idea how long we need to wait but I'm also not sure where it came from this year.

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Any chance of a pic? If the leaves are going crispy then lift.

Blue Sky



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It's been very wet here the last few weeks but sunny today so maybe they will dry out a bit (the beds I mean).


tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No probs Simon, just lift them a little or completely and hang somewhere to dry. I've had rust like that and still had a very good crop.

One thing to watch is that (if they're the type) they'll still try and send up their flowering spike even if you've taken them completely out of the ground, just make sure you nip that out as soon as it's visible.

Blue Sky



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks

The leeks did that. They are laying on top of the compost pile with the roots dangling in the air and still the seed heads are reaching for the sky. It is a very odd site.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

'Nother thread hijack - I have the opposite problem with my onions - the bulbs are quite uncovered, due to overenthusiastic watering (both by mother nature and me!) should I earth them up a bit - I've got piles of spare topsoil kicking about.

tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

How big are they? If they're already fairly big then prolly not worth it.

Lisa



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

My garlic leaves are looking a bit crispy (and, yes, a bit rusty too) - do I have to lift them? The bulbs are still quite small.

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