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pricey

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 4:38 pm Post subject:
Nice one mate, I never thought you were going to get it before Winter. How about, Jonsfujir

Bebo

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 5:35 pm Post subject:
How about 'This Way Up'.

sean
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 5:36 pm Post subject:
You'll need a bigger motor than that if you're going to get it to plane.

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 5:48 pm Post subject:
Looks nice, are you able to give a rough idea of the price?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:05 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

You'll need a bigger motor than that if you're going to get it to plane.

With a hull like that it'll never be a flyer. I'll be looking out for a 15hp but that will be fine for now.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:10 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Looks nice, are you able to give a rough idea of the price?

I can give you an exact idea

£1400. Boat is in very good condition, engine looks good, trailer is fine, but needs a few little additions to help with loading and unloading. Overall I'm very happy.

She's a darragh 14, and irish make similar to the orkney spinner or dell quay fisher.

bingo

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:15 pm Post subject:

Bebo wrote:

How about 'This Way Up'.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:29 pm Post subject:
The boat looks almost new from the photos. How many people could she carry and when's your first trip?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:32 pm Post subject:
I'd be happy with 4 adults at most. You could probably get 4 adults and 2 kids at a push. Keep the questions coming I'm writing an article on beginners, basic boats so it's good to know what people want to find out. EDIT: need to buy a few bits and pieces for her but first test run will be on the local river midweek, then out for the mackerel next weekend, weather permitting.

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:41 pm Post subject:
Well.... I was wondering how you tell a good boat from a bad one. Is similar to a car in that you check for a well maintained boat without any obvious bodges etc? As for gauging the price is it just experience or do you get an price guides like cars? Do you have to register it especially when you've named her?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 7:55 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Well.... I was wondering how you tell a good boat from a bad one. Is similar to a car in that you check for a well maintained boat without any obvious bodges etc?

That's pretty much it, most are grp now so you can see how well they've been maintained, if there are any cracks in the transom from using too powerful an engine, if it has holes in it from previously installed and removed equipment. I would always go for an unpainted boat, as a paint job on a grp boat can hide a multitude of sins... But I'm fairly 'green' and I can spot a good one from a bad one, it's just common sense and a bit of nosing around

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As for gauging the price is it just experience or do you get an price guides like cars? Do you have to register it especially when you've named her?

Some boats attract a premium, any orkney will, but if you get a decent bonwitco it's a far better boat for the money.

It really depends on what you want to do with it. For summer inshore fishing, mackerel and a few pots - £5k will leave you totally spoiled for choice. But at the lower end you need to spend some time looking at dogs until you find a decent 'un.

Take a look at the boats here the dell quay fisher is similar to mine and £2k dearer, the bonwitco is similar to my last one and again priced much higher.

No need to register unless you're commercial IIRC. I had a RNLI sea check (for free) with my last boat and they didn't specify it. But to be honest in hindsight that check was only suitable for people going a couple of miles out. the guy was talking about fitting radar reflectors - total overkill for what I wanted to do, but that said I did pick up a few pointers

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 8:08 pm Post subject:
Thanks for the answers, very useful. Do you need or is it advisable to take out insurance and before you set sail is there a recommended amount of kit you should take? Before I seriously consider a boat I'll book a trip with someone and ask them plenty of questions as well.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 8:41 pm Post subject:
Yes to both, I would recommend that anyone involved in any public sport or hobby take out some kind of third party insurance.

dougal

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 9:39 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

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Keep the questions coming

I'm writing an article on beginners, basic boats so it's good to know what people want to find out. ...

AFAIK, you don't have to have any "driving license" or equivalent. One can buy a boat, launch it and sail (or chug) away.
Again AFAIK, there's no requirement for insurance, either.
But insurance (3rd party & loss/damage) seems like a sensible idea, as does an elementary competence in seamanship and navigation.

Do the insurance companies impose any competency criteria?

Again AFAIK (unless you are operating commercially), I don't think there's any legal obligations as regards carrying any safety equipment, at all.
Clearly *some* would be sensible...
What would you advise (together with an outline of the costs, as well as storage life for things like distress flares)?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 07 10:16 pm Post subject:

You're correct, you don't need any thing, but it is advisable (likewise if you shoot or even ski for example) to have some third party insurance.

My basic safety kit is

Inshore marine flares (35 quid I think)
100 newton lifejackets for all (£30 and upwards)
anchor, chain and rope (£20 and upwards)
first aid kit (£10 - £15)
fire extinguisher (£10-£20)
secondary propulsion (oars are sufficient) (£25 - £500 for an outboard)
mobile phone
VHF (if you have the money for the course and radio)

all the above excluding the VHF or mobile should cost you less than £200.

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