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RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 08 8:41 pm Post subject:

As you can see in the pics the engine hangs over the back. You can only smell it when starting it, once your moving its smell free in the boat. No vomit yet but would have been had I not stopped working when I did. I,m fine when actualy moving even in quite choppy waves. But as soon as I try to sort kits out I go queezy.

Been trying to find out when the slack time is as I thought it was just before to just after high & low tide. At high tide its still choppy.

Justme

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 08 8:52 pm Post subject:

Justme wrote:

No vomit yet but would have been had I not stopped working when I did.

Don't worry, if you are ill just call it ground bait and get on with setting the line.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 08 9:03 pm Post subject:
I had a 30HP two stroke on my dory but bougt a small 8hp four stroke primarliy to get around the need for hefty insurance on boats of 10hp or more and also to not have two stroke fumes floating around. I've not taken it out yet.

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 08 9:09 pm Post subject:
I've never had a problem with two stroke fumes. Never even noticed any smell TBH

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 08 9:11 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

I've never had a problem with two stroke fumes. Never even noticed any smell TBH

You're very lucky. One whiff and I'm green.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 08 7:43 am Post subject: Joke

A guy goes to a travel agent and books a two-week cruise for himself and his girlfriend. A couple of days before the cruise, the travel agent phones and says the cruise has been canceled, but he can get them on a three-day cruise instead. The guy agrees and goes to the chemist to buy three Dramamine and three condoms.

Next day, the agent calls back and says he now can book a five-day cruise. The guy says he'll take it and returns to the same pharmacy and buys two more Dramamine and two more condoms.

The following day, the travel agent calls again and says he can now book an eight-day cruise. The guy agrees and goes back to the chemist and asks for three more Dramamine and three more condoms.

Finally, the pharmacist asks, "Look, if it makes you sick, why do you keep doing it?"

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 08 10:54 am Post subject:

thought I would try thr crystalised ginger today so on my way to the boat I went to the shops. PArked up as usual on the clif tops to walk down & the sea was so flat it was unreal. Waded out knee deep to the boat & spent about 30 mins sorting out the long line so it would set easily. Punted out of the harbour due to all the floating mooring lines. Started up & motored out past the external harbour & the perminatly set pots & other markers. Choose my spot, droped anchor, and.....

set the long line & dint feel queezey at all but then it was fairly flat still so was it the sea condition or was it the ginger? Time will tell. Went for a motor round as I am still getting used to the boat & how it handles. Moored her back up sat enjoying the morning on the beach. Short walk back up the clif to the top (were there is a seat) sat & watched the sea for a bit took the photos below & back to the car.

Justme

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 08 11:00 am Post subject:
Ginger doesn't actually do anything biological or even psyocological. It flattens seas and calms the wind Lovely photo's BTW.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 08 12:46 pm Post subject:

Dint get to go out yesterday due to the weather.

Managed to go out today but blanked again (well not strickly true as there were 3 tiny shrimps in the weed on the line). Out of the 50 hooks on the line we lost 4 traces completly & 3 straightened hooks plus one snapped hook. I guess we were a bit to close to the rocks. Was fairly choppy today but felt ok. The line is not in now as we cant get out Friday (viewings) & poss over the weekend too. With luck the net will be here by then so we can blank in a different way

Will have to try actual fishing too one of these days.

Justme

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 08 1:01 pm Post subject:
You should be grabbing some mackerel whilst you are out. BTW, how do you get the ginger to stay on the hooks?

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 08 11:45 am Post subject: Its arrived

Well the net has arrived. To be honest I am a little disapointed in it. I guess the old saying (buy cheap buy twice or you get what you pay for) is correct. The net seems to be made from very thin mono & the top & bottom lines also seem very poor. At least it will allow me to try it out with out having spent a fortune. Have also now found a supplier of better quality gear at reasonable prices so when it need replacing I know where I will be spending my money. Weather sucks today so wont be getting the net wet today. Also did think that now its getting to holiday season keeping the lines & nets out of the water over the weekend might be a good idea anyway to stop it getting wrecked by the boats & other water craft.

RichardW

RichardW

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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 08 11:57 am Post subject:
I have just filled in my application for a licence to set pots for crabs & lobsters. Just need to find a cheap supply of pots now. Have asked on free cycle but not holding my breath lol. Only allowed to set 5 pots as a non commercial fisher. Very small daily allowances too. RichardW

IanNW

Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Flintshire, North Wales/India

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 08 1:59 pm Post subject:

5 lobster a day without a commercial licence, Female lobsters with eggs to be returned to sea for obvious reasons.
I usually take a grab net when i go scuba diving on the Coast. Drives the pot fishermen mad. Spider crab hurt as well if you don't pick them up properly, i was glad to be wearing kevlar gloves at the time.

Try some lures for fresh mackeral to use as bait on your long line.

Sea Bass will be coming into season before too long as well.
Best place to fish for Cod and Whiting from October to January in your area is the Pier in Bangor on the Menai Straits.

Used to spend many a winter nights fishing off that pier largest Codling i ever caught was there 8lbs in weight.

Well my next fishing expo will be down in Cornwall on boat for some Sea Bass in late July/Early August.

If i can get the chance and time could bring some Sea rods and gear over for you to play with in middle of July.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 08 2:14 pm Post subject:

Nope local rules are

Quote:

BYELAW 30

FISHING FOR LOBSTER, CRAWFISH, CRAB PRAWN AND WHELK

1. No person shall take or land from any fishery within the District more than the specified amount of the species listed below in a calendar day, except in accordance with paragraph 5. All such fish must be landed on the same calendar day on which they were caught and may not be stored in any keep pot or similar device at sea.

Species Maximum Daily Quantity
Lobster (Homarus gammarus) 2 individuals
Crawfish ( Palinurus elephas) 1 individual
Edible crabs (Cancer pagurus), Spider crabs (Maia squinado), Velvet crabs (Liocarcinus puber) Combined total of 5 individuals
Prawns (Pandalidae and Palaemonidae) 1 kilogram
Whelks (Buccinum undatum) 5 kilograms

Each fishery area has its own rules. Here you cant even set one pot without a licence.

Quote:

2. No person, except in accordance with paragraph 5, shall fish in any part of the District, using pots or traps, except under a permit issued by the Committee.

para 5 covers commercial fishermen.

RichardW

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 08 2:59 pm Post subject:

Went out early evening last night to set the net on the beach. Could not sleep at all so was back out at 3.30am watching the tide go out. By 6am I was chest deep in the water as I was fed up of waiting for low water (7am). Dragged the net (well it was a net when it went in) in & had caught 5 dogs, 2 plaice & half of some thing? The plaice were still alive & small so they went back into the sea for another time. The dogs were all a good size so a good tap or two on the head & in the box. Skined guted & de headed the dogs & we had some cut up in small strips like gougeons but fried in seasoned flour not bread crumbs for lunch. Taste lovely, slightly lemony. Will def do more of them. Will post pic later head still not coping with no sleep.

Net looks like a write off. Its so baddly & tangled torn I doubt its worth sorting out. Bugger first time out & blown £50 worth of net.

RichardW

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