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Moniar



Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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Location: Lampeter, west Wales
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 09 10:52 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Not a single fox seen tonight - must be full after eating Jeremy. Fox live trap now in situ next to where the fox got into the coup today and set for the rest of the night. Heres hoping.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 09 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Children can develop a morbid fascination with fireams; the best cure for this is to teach then to use them safely and responsibly when they are old enough to handle a fiream safely. Otherwise, they should regard them as a potentally dangerous bit of farm machinery.

Old-Chads-Orchard



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 385
Location: Malpas, Cheshire
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 09 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:

Edit: solid slug is devastating and you need to ensure you have a proper backstop behind the target as the slug will go straight through the fox and keep going. So the risk is so much greater than when using shot which dissipates it's energy quite quickly.

They are very heavy hitters and for your size of land I wouldn't advise using them. The energy at 100 yards is given as 1,200 ft. lbs with a muzzle velocity of 1,500 fps, somewhat more powerful than an air rfile.


You need a FAC to fire solid slug from a shotty (according to my local FAO)

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 09 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yes, very true. I believe FAO's aren't keen on them for pest control and would probably prefer you use a rifle. Practical Shotgun is perhaps the only justifiable reason for solid slug in the UK.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 09 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
Yes, very true. I believe FAO's aren't keen on them for pest control and would probably prefer you use a rifle. Practical Shotgun is perhaps the only justifiable reason for solid slug in the UK.


I have solid slug on my FAC for humane destruction of farm stock.

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 09 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
vegplot wrote:
Yes, very true. I believe FAO's aren't keen on them for pest control and would probably prefer you use a rifle. Practical Shotgun is perhaps the only justifiable reason for solid slug in the UK.


I have solid slug on my FAC for humane destruction of farm stock.


You learn something new every day.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 09 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Essentially, injured horses or deranged cattle, in circs. where it would be too dangerous to use the .308, and not personally safe to get close enough to kill them with a shotgun blast to the head. I had to write to the Firearms dept to make the case, and can only buy 50 and hold 75.

They're very careful who they let have them, mainly because if you use them carelessly in the field they can ricochet like a .22, only weighing an ounce and a half rather than 40 grains, and doing 1550 fps.

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