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Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:06 pm    Post subject: The Storm Part 2  Reply with quote    

Hold on to your hats...our boffins are currently in a 'contingency meeting'. This usually means ordure meeting the air circulation device is about to happen.

The storm predictors are suggesting that tomorrow the north of england pennines are likely to be hit by extreme thunder storms on the scale, or greater, than last weekend up on the moors.

50mm of rain is predicted as being possible.

I don't know how they come up with this but the predicted radar map of rainfall intensity looks like a fried egg over west west yorkshire.

Just for reassurance they say that similar events may happen across other parts of England.

:toothy2:

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Does this mean that there have been sewage releases into rivers?

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Where the storm overwhelms a sewage system and any temporary storage tanks it will overflow to the river. The only saving grace is that it's like to be very diluted and the biological impact will be lessened.

Last week there wasn't much of a system up there as it was rural however the sewage treatement works at Helmsley was flooded to a depth of 6 feet and generally badly knocked about. As an aisde about 200 sheep were swept away and drowned in that flood.

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I assume that this is the 'wrong sort of rain' of which we hear so much...

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yup, very rapid, runs off quickly befoere it penetrate the hard ground. However last wekend some of our pennine reservoirs went up due to the storms that didn't make the news. This is almost unheard of at this time of year as reservoirs are normally falling at this time of year.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
I assume that this is the 'wrong sort of rain' of which we hear so much...

Hosepipe ban for Yorkshire coming in the next couple of weeks.

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Unlike the filthmongers over at United Utilites we are perfectly confident that we can meet our customers needs bla bla...

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Right I'm off to buy tinned food, plastic sheeting and bottled water...it's the end of the world as we know it.....

thos



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We're booked in for 22.5mm on Tuesday. I'm hoping the 3.7mm expected on Saturday will soften up the ground first. At least it should be cooler on Saturday, I'm fed up with this heat, not to mention using the watering can every night.

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Here's the warning on the met Office Website:

Here is an ADVANCED WARNING of Heavy Rain affecting England and Wales.
Issued by the Met Office at 06:59 on Thursday, 23 June 2005.
The Met Office is forecasting the current mini heat-wave to break down with thunderstorms developing across England and east Wales in the next 36 hours. The storms are expected to arrive across Wales and southwest England on Thursday night, transferring N/NE into other parts of England during Friday. The storms could be severe and long lasting with squally winds and large hail.
Torrential downpours of the order of 60mm in a 3 hour period are possible with total accumulations reaching 100mm or more locally.
Such rainfall totals could lead to significant flash flooding, particularly in areas prone to rapid runoff.
The area at greatest risk of disruption is expected to extend from eastern parts of SW England and central-southern England northeastwards across the Midlands and E/NE England, but even within this area, some regions will escape the worst of the storms.
For enquiries regarding this warning - please contact your regional Met Office.
Transmitted by the Met Office at 06:59 on Thursday 23 June

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Just a thought - if I'd watered last night (or this morning) then wold it help it turn into the right sort of rain (ie would it penetrate better, and do my plants more good? It did occur to me last night, but I got distracted (me, never!)

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

At the micro level of your plot it probably will help, as will regular hoeing. You just have to hope that everything isn't pounded to bu**ery and back. It's getting very dark here.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

No expert knowledge here, but I'd say yes, WW.

As I see it, the problem with heavy rain after a dry spell is that the ground is baked solid and so the water cannot penetrate it. After a bit of water has been on the ground for a while it opens it up a bit allowing for an increased absorbsion rate.
For a similie, think of a shammy. When it's dry, water runs over the surface with very little soaking in. When it's wet and dripping, lots run off, but some does stay. The best is when it's damp; it's got an open surface with plenty of capacity for more.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
It's getting very dark here.


Must be going South East of us here in Manchester (doubtless it'll make an appearance around lunchtime). Mid-level solid clouds but still bright.

judith



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A fantastic heavy drizzle to light rain and very low cloud here - it all seems to be soaking in nicely :toothy2:
Keep it coming please!

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