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Woodburner



Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 10 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vanessa wrote:
My Bridgewater beans from Bugs are growing well ... but none of the other early sowings have done anything I reckon it was too cold for too long for French beans.

I'm going to soak my Dig-in beans this weekend; deliberately left late, to give a succession of beans.


I soaked five different types of bean before sowing. The borlotti and Scarlet Emperor did very well, the rest, well, most just disappeared. A very few germinated, of which only one or two look viable, a couple I managed to find rotted remains of and a few I found little maggots where the beans should be.
I have since found a seed saving tip (from realseeds) to freeze them for, IIRC, 24 hours before storing, to kill weevil eggs, so I'm thinking of freezing them the day before sowing next time, rather than soaking, which seems not so good after reading Otleylad's tip!

Nearly forgot, don't know if it's just coincidence, but the ones that failed were all white seeded. French beans and runners.

Greenfoot



Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 10 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have had poor germination rates in the past both for direct and pot sowings. This year, I presoaked all the beans (4 different types) and put them in pots once the beans had developed strong roots. The roots are very vulnerable but with care I managed to sow them in post. I planted them on the ground once they were big enough to give them a better chance against snails and once the weather was hot enough; it is a few days since they started to flower.

Vanessa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 10 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Interesting, WB. I'll have a rummage for remains and see if they look like they've been chomped by weevils!

Res



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 10 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I HAVE BABIES! well....some anyway, I checked again everywhere I had direct sown and a few have started to come up from the second sewing of new seed fairly dry over the allotment so that was probably the reason a few have survived. The pot sown one I had put in root trainers and are still far too wet which would explain the rotting theory, one has survived and is doing well, one has come up but the top has rotted and one has come out root first!!! must be austrailan, but still rotten at the other end

bibbster



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 10 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Res wrote:
I HAVE BABIES! well....some anyway, I checked again everywhere I had direct sown and a few have started to come up from the second sewing of new seed fairly dry over the allotment so that was probably the reason a few have survived. The pot sown one I had put in root trainers and are still far too wet which would explain the rotting theory, one has survived and is doing well, one has come up but the top has rotted and one has come out root first!!! must be austrailan, but still rotten at the other end


you see, it was cos I had a quiet word with them

toggle



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 10 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Greenfoot wrote:
I have had poor germination rates in the past both for direct and pot sowings. This year, I presoaked all the beans (4 different types) and put them in pots once the beans had developed strong roots. The roots are very vulnerable but with care I managed to sow them in post. I planted them on the ground once they were big enough to give them a better chance against snails and once the weather was hot enough; it is a few days since they started to flower.


hmmmmmmmmm.

no flowers yet, just so much green stuff

Res



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 10 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

alibibby wrote:
you see, it was cos I had a quiet word with them


All hail Alibibby!!!!

zigs



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
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Location: Somerset
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 10 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

1st flowers coming

robkb



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well, the direct sowing seems to have worked! The French and runner beans have all germinated and are growing like crazy now, thanks I guess to the recent combination of warm and wet weather .

Cheers,
Rob.

SarahB



Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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Location: South Wales
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Greenfoot wrote:
I have had poor germination rates in the past both for direct and pot sowings. This year, I presoaked all the beans (4 different types) and put them in pots once the beans had developed strong roots. The roots are very vulnerable but with care I managed to sow them in post. I planted them on the ground once they were big enough to give them a better chance against snails and once the weather was hot enough; it is a few days since they started to flower.


Oddly, the best bean we managed was the one that DD started in a jam jar, on paper. The frost got that one.

VSS



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Always sow the runners in pots and plant out, but put them outside as soon as they are through else i find they get too blasted by the wind when they are planted out. Germinating them indoors keeps the soil temperature up but they don't get soft once they start growing,

For some unknown reason I alway sow the french beans direct, but never before the last week of May, and only then if the weather is good and a good forecast for the next three - four days. I get good germination bit it tends to be patchy at the ends of the rows.

gardening-girl



Joined: 25 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Have just picked our first french beans,these were planted on Easter Saturday in our poly -tunnel.They are a purple variety called Royalty.Some of the seeds left behind when the nursery at Dillington closed down.
By the end of the week,we will have yellow beans as well.

SarahB



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

**Jealous of both beans and poly tunnel.**

Vanessa



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 10 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jealous of the polytunnel. *Sighs deeply* Maybe next year ...

Res



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gardening-girl wrote:
Have just picked our first french beans


OMG, that is just sooo out of order, yeah but...no but....yeah but...., that is just sooo out of order!

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