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chrysalis



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 8:55 pm    Post subject: Log Cabin living in a garden  Reply with quote    

Hi All - this is my first post, so forgive any mistakes !

When I retire in 3 years my mortgage will still have 8yrs to run (due to hubby's currently 2yrs unemployment) I won't be able to afford to live here then. I was wondering about possibility of selling up, divvying out the spoils between 2 daughters, and buying a log cabin (around 10k all in), sited in older one's garden. Most ads for these say they are suitable as additional accommodation, offices, etc. Do you reckon they'd need PP? Has anyone tried this?

Chrysalis

cir3ngirl



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

On your post sorry no idea.

But hello and welcome anyway

lettucewoman



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think this thread could be relevant to you...http://forum.downsizer.net/about53636.html&highlight=


Welcome to downsizer BTW!!

chrysalis



Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hi both - thanks for speedy replies & encouragement

I had seen that temp dwelling on your land site, but does that just apply to something like a field or wood? This would be in an established garden. I was hoping to install compost loo, solar energy, etc (and use daughter's tumble drier, etc., in the winter for a small fee )

Chrysalis

chrysalis



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:31 pm    Post subject: PS Reply with quote    

PS - I LOVE this forum !

pookie



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

welcome!!

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I believe that if you plan to use it as a residence, then you will need planning permission.
If it is just a detached extension to the house (e.g a study, or occasional guest accommodation), then you may not (provided it is less than how big, etc.).
Depending on the neighbours, you could try it under the eleventh commandment.

JohnB



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

In theory I think you'll need planning permission, that you may well not get. There are permitted development rights that allow you to put up buildings in your garden, but NOT for living in. This is what is, and isn't, allowed without planning permission. Note that larger buildings may need building regs. Permitted development rights can be withdrawn if the house is a listed building, or in some other circumstances.

Of course what you do in reality is another matter, but whether you get away with it depends on your local authority and the attitude of the neighbours. I wouldn't be comfortable being committed to doing it, with no alternative plan if you get into trouble.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

P.S. 10k sounds like a lot.
I'm sure the one we built was nearer 5k. All 5 of them lived in it for 18 months while we built the real house.
Was a bit of a squeeze for them mind.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

10k isn't a lot for residental spec, depending upon the size.

chrysalis



Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 10:25 pm    Post subject: Another daft question ... Reply with quote    

would you need PP to have one of those lovely gipsy caravans I've seen somewhere else on DS in your garden?

Chrysalis

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Calli



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rob R wrote:
10k isn't a lot for residental spec, depending upon the size.


Not even close by my research.

Don't go by the quoted figures as they often don't include the landworks and expensive stuff.

It isn't cheap to dig out and lay foundations, as for the amenities?? sheesh


lottie



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 10 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Sorry to be a party pooper but even if you could get away with this now what would happen if your daughter had to move or even worse heaven forbid died. If you can't afford to live where you are when you retire surely better to downsize to what is manageable financially and let your kids wait until you pop your clogs to "divi up" anything left. The only thing certain about life is that it isn't.

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 10 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hello and welcome

On the planning stuff - what JohnB said.

But I do agree with Lottie, when money is involved even your nearest an dearest can be really horrible and act completely out of character.

VM



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 10 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

King Lear comes to mind...

Would there be any way you could let out your current home and find somewhere very cheap to live while the mortgage is still being paid off?

Or do you have a spare room you can rent?

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