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Bebo



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 2:46 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Katieowl wrote:
All my nearby Bookers are an hour away, but I had intended to check them out anyway. I did gather together some paperwork from OH's business to join, as I don't have stuff for the B&B yet, but never happened


I'd get stuff in bulk from Bookers, but I don't have a business so I can't join.

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You don't need to have much of a business. School PTFAs can get a booker card.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Or you must have a self-employed friend, or if not start a food group/business.

Bebo



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rob R wrote:
Or you must have a self-employed friend, .


I don't have any friends.

Addiscomber



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jamanda wrote:
Hmm. If you live in a city you generally have more shopping options than living in a field in the middle of no-where.

You would think so, but it ain't necessarily so. We have supermarkets galore and a few independent convenience stores, but they sell the same type of goods only at higher prices. Luckily we still have our very good butcher, and a greengrocer, but there are no local producers at all, let alone organic, when for miles in all directions is built up.
Jamanda wrote:

Nat and Rob might be OK for meat, but they still need veg and bog roll.

It has always puzzled me as to why fresh veg seems to be hard to get hold of, and expensive, in rural areas, where you would think it would be the opposite.

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Because most areas don't grow veg commercially. Round here is/was primarily a dairying area. There's one market garden within striking distance of us.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
Because most areas don't grow veg commercially. Round here is/was primarily a dairying area. There's one market garden within striking distance of us.


Do you think there would be realistic demand in your area for more local grown veg? Either traditional or more exotic?

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yep, definitely as far as I can tell. Chickem works for them so she might be better placed to judge but I reckon there would be a market.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

lassemista wrote:
Re small quantities of meat-
Do you have any like minded friends who you could split an order with?


Not unless we travel a fair bit delivering it which defeats the object really. We've done it with Suma orders, often taking orders from several people but non perishable items are easier to store and get to people.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

How much is not much (meat)?

marigold



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Lots of market gardens around here - the local Waitrose and Tesco's flog F&V grown within 10 miles of the stores (in addition to all the imported stuff, of course). I do sometimes wonder if it's driven twice round the country in their packing/distribution network before it gets into the stores, but they've obviously picked up on the marketing potential of local produce. Small shops don't make a big thing of local produce though, so I assume it's mostly warehoused stuff they are selling.

OP



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

When I researched this a few years ago most greengrocers were getting their orchard fruit supplies from wholesale F&V markets, although some supplemented it with locally-grown stuff in season. I recently noticed our local Sainsbury's were selling "local" potatoes, grown about 20 miles away, which I suppose is local, but like marigold I did wonder what actual route they had taken to get here. Still it is probably a good thing.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 10 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Where were they grown? When East Riding Farm Produce was still going they could have come 7 miles, although they were also going as far as spain and also coming up from the fens to be processed.

OP



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 10 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I think it was Middleton on the Wolds, I'll check next time I am there.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 10 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rob R wrote:
How much is not much (meat)?


On average I think I only eat 200 - 300g of meat a week. I could eat more but I don't tend to have as much as most people.

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