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Tavascarow



Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Location: South Cornwall
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 12:38 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

I'm an ignoramous but something BB probably should have said on the FAC is make sure they are licensed & will be using the right calibre of amunition for large quarry.
You don't want some one shooting at red deer with a .22.
Sure BB will fill in the gaps.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yeah, and while your at it make sure he isn't going to shoot them with a teaspoon, a haddock or a dead rat.

cassy



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 1047
Location: South West Scotland
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

windyridge wrote:
*withdraws from discussion* I am a big softee

I find it difficult too; there's got to be a balance I think, between the needs of people and the needs of the animals who use the land. The 'kill em all' approach seems to be easier for some people than getting and maintaining a balance.

I knew a wonderful old bloke once, had been shooting deer for years. He culled deer in order to keep the population healthy on the feed they had. If he was here I would have no qualms about handing over the management decisions to him as he would get that balance right.

Thanks for taking the time to add your view .

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have on occasion refused to work for landowners who wanted me to institute a bloodbath of wildlife. You should never take life without good cause.

cassy



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
I have on occasion refused to work for landowners who wanted me to institute a bloodbath of wildlife. You should never take life without good cause.

I'm hoping this bloke has the same attitude and if not that we find one who does.

Hots



Joined: 23 Sep 2010
Posts: 397
Location: Suffolk
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

We have a chap who shoots our roe deer.

He has many years experience, he spends a long time making sure that he gets a clear shot, he uses the right sort of gun (don't ask what calibre it is, I can't remember, but it is definitely a deershooter), he also ensures that if the bullet goes through the deer it is not going to carry on and hit something behind the beast. This is an issue here as the land is flat.
He is aware of the breeding seasons of each type of deer, therefore he knows when and what he should or shouldn't be shooting.
He guts the deer as soon as he has shot them, he brings me the warm liver for my menfolk.
He takes the carcases away and a few weeks later he returns with the venison perfectly butchered and packaged up for us.
For each 3 deer he shoots we get one back, freezer ready.
We are a little spoilt.
Oh, and he's a really nice bloke.

SheepShed



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hots wrote:
he brings me the warm liver for my menfolk

My imagination is running wild at the mental picture that conjures up

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 11 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

what a splendid thread

matt_hooks



Joined: 01 Aug 2010
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Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 11 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As BB says, if for ANY REASON you have reason to doubt the person, then politely decline to give them permission. There are enough good people out there who will happily come and cull the required number that you don't need to take any c##p off anyone. You have a valuable resource, which you owe to yourself to dispose of in the most beneficial manner possible.

If I were nearer I'd offer my services.

As a guide, a red dear sells in the skin to a game dealer at about 1.30 a kg, depending on how well it's shot. Bear that in mind when agreeing who gets to keep what of the meat.

I know some land owners who will happily let you walk off with the entire carcass, but when I stalk I always offer to split the meat half and half with the land owner at least, and that's the meat butchered as they want it, ready to go in the freezer or pot. I take great pride in dealing with the whole process, from shooting right through to cooking (and eating of course!) and anyone who wants to shoot the dear for you should probably be able to say the same.

djoptix



Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

matt_hooks wrote:
As a guide, a red dear sells at about 1.30 a kg


How much could I get if I shot an old dear...?

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8427
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

djoptix wrote:


How much could I get if I shot an old dear...?


With the slack courts about 20 hours community service. So it does not infringe on you rights.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34450
Location: yes
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

deer are splendid but can be destructive and tasty if needs be

met one white and 8 brown early one morning ,no violence a pretty time in a sussex field

stalked some reds in a blizzard over 2 miles of mountains and surprised them by saying hello inside the herd when they lay down for a rest ,no violence but the way they jumped up and ran was very funny ,if i had been feeling nasty it could have been done with a blade when i was next to the big lad

i like deer .bbq fillet is very nice

i like deer as critters

mostly as critters

im not sure how ki feels about deer

djoptix



Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

BB, please change your avatar back, the old one was sweet but the new one is just wrong diddly wrong wrong.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

djoptix wrote:
BB, please change your avatar back, the old one was sweet but the new one is just wrong diddly wrong wrong.


Problem, Dave? You need Cloooothespegs?

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34450
Location: yes
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

the new one is cute

back to the plot

if they are eating the trees it may work to repel them with scent .human ,lion works .dog

the lion thing comes from napoleon and josephine who dumped for surrey to keep deer off blackheath gardens
.bagged rather than a visit

if it keeps roses and strawberries safe .......

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