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Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 7:39 am    Post subject: The Vegetarian Myth Reply with quote
    

Via twitter I've just found a couple of reviews for this book, looks interesting...

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The vegetarian diet is praised for being sustainable and animal-friendly, but after 20 years of being vegan, Keith has a diffent take. She argues that agriculture is a relentless assault against the planet. In service to annual grains, humans have devastated prairies and forests, driven countless species extinct, altered the climate, and destroyed the topsoil--the basis of life itself. She argues that if humans are to save the planet, food must be an act of profound and abiding repair, generated from inside communities rather than imposed on them.


Book review 2

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I blame all this destruction of nature on the invention of the axe.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Given the amount of time required to make and use an axe, I'll still keep blaming the chainsaw

paul1963



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I met an archeologist when visiting Grimes Graves in Norfolk some years back and he told me that "if Neolithic peoples has JCBs we'd all be riding camels now". It has stuck in my mind as one of the most interesting things I've ever heard...........

vegplot



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Perhaps we should go back to Neolithic populations level.

jamanda
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This series on iplayer is very interesting on that subject.

Odd to think that at one point the human population of the UK was less than the number of kids at my school.

T.G



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'd suggest the wheel has a big part to answer for

kirstyfern



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 11 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The combustion engine was probably the nail in the coffin...

Aeolienne



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 11 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How much of Ms Keith's take on the myth overlaps with Dr Mercola's?

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 11 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Clean water and medicine is to blame for all our ills.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 11 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the lack of four meals will sort things

not fatal unless one is being eaten

Mr O



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 11 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: The Vegetarian Myth Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Via twitter I've just found a couple of reviews for this book, looks interesting...

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The vegetarian diet is praised for being sustainable and animal-friendly, but after 20 years of being vegan, Keith has a diffent take. She argues that agriculture is a relentless assault against the planet. In service to annual grains, humans have devastated prairies and forests, driven countless species extinct, altered the climate, and destroyed the topsoil--the basis of life itself. She argues that if humans are to save the planet, food must be an act of profound and abiding repair, generated from inside communities rather than imposed on them.


Book review 2


Is Keith really a she?

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 11 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is it her surname?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 11 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

She looks like a she: www.lierrekeith.com/

Midland Spinner



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Location: Under a green roof
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 11 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've been veggie for years. I began when I realised that as part of the affluent 1st world I was able to eat meat at every meal - i.e. if you included snacks of things like bovril & those individually wrapped mini sausages that advertise themselves as "a bit of an animal" (can't recall their names atm) that could be 5 times a day
So while the rest of the world starved, here we were in Britain stuffing our faces with meat which takes more land & resources to produce than the equivalent amount of vegetable protein.
And also that the majority of the meat we were eating was nasty, intensively reared stuff that was an insult to the animal and to the good name of farming.

I could have opted to only eat meat occasionally and then only eat hand-crafted meat like the stuff that Rob, Nat & various others produce, but then you get into all sorts of discussions with people about the origin of the meat & how it was produced, so it was far simpler to just declare myself vegetarian - that way there's no question of possibly insulting a friend by refusing some meat which is factory reared but possibly all they can afford by refusing to eat it.

I never much liked meat, and doing biology meant that I was able to recognise so many working parts on my plate that it was quite offputting - so it was actually a relief to go veggie.
I've never regretted it.
But I respect people who still eat good meat, or rear it. (I still have a problem with people raising & stuffing themselves on battery chicken & factory farmed meat because they are too hide-bound to look for alternatives and too mean to pay the producers the full cost of rearing animals humanely)

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