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JB



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Location: 91 N
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 10:14 am    Post subject: Seed saving Reply with quote
    

Are there any seeds that anyone here would not recommend keeping?

I usually save pepper and chilli seeds and they seem reliable enough. This year I was thinking about trying to save the courgette and tomato seeds but I can't remember if the courgette was an F1 variety and wonder if the tomatoes might end up as a bizarre red alert / alicante / tumbler hybrid?

Also is it practical to let some plants go over to seed use those, e.g. broccoli and onions. I grow sping onions from seed but other onions from sets so is it possible to grow non sping onions from seed and if so when should I sow?

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44634
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This year I'll be saving carrot, orach, fat hen, and leek. It's fairly easy and I enjoy it.

judith



Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have one parsnip plant that escaped harvest last year and is full of seed now. Should I put bags over the seed heads or pick them and ripen indoors?

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've saved seed from a stray salsify plant found on my plot this year, and I'll also be saving French beans.

How reliable are carrot seeds thus saved?

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44634
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'd pick em and dry them indoors, carrots and parsnips are umbellifers, I can't see any reason why the seeds shouldn't be viable as long as they're not F1. My first time saving carrot. Forgot I'll be saving French Beans and an excellent ridge cucumber called Wautoma too.

2steps



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Posts: 5349
Location: Surrey
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

runner bean

JB



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

2steps wrote:
runner bean


Is that what you will save or won't save?

2steps



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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Location: Surrey
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sorry, misread the opening post I keep

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I would bring parsnip seed inand hang it over a tray, if you do want to put a bag over it outside, ensure it is not plastic as the damp from condensation will not help the seed quality and parsnip seed is , firstly notoriously difficult to germinate and secondly not recommended as one of those seeds that you keep over from one year to the next as the germination rate for the second year is said to be very poor.

Fiveravens



Joined: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 46
Location: Co Kerry
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 05 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Seed saving Reply with quote
    

JB wrote:
Are there any seeds that anyone here would not recommend keeping?

I usually save pepper and chilli seeds and they seem reliable enough. This year I was thinking about trying to save the courgette and tomato seeds but I can't remember if the courgette was an F1 variety and wonder if the tomatoes might end up as a bizarre red alert / alicante / tumbler hybrid?

Also is it practical to let some plants go over to seed use those, e.g. broccoli and onions. I grow sping onions from seed but other onions from sets so is it possible to grow non sping onions from seed and if so when should I sow?

You can easily grow non-spring onions from seed. Sow under glass in January or February and plant out in March or April (recommended), or sow direct outside in March. I'm sowing Giant Zittau in January - supposed to be a seriously strong onion. I always keep runners and broad bean seeds.

judith



Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 05 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bernie66 wrote:
I would bring parsnip seed inand hang it over a tray, if you do want to put a bag over it outside, ensure it is not plastic as the damp from condensation will not help the seed quality and parsnip seed is , firstly notoriously difficult to germinate and secondly not recommended as one of those seeds that you keep over from one year to the next as the germination rate for the second year is said to be very poor.


Brilliant. Thanks Bernie. Now why didn't I do this two days ago before the rain started?

Res



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1172
Location: Allotment Shed, Harlow
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 05 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I grew some of my onions this year from seed and they were fine. Shop bought though.

I have a japanese winter onion that I have left growing and was surprised to see it not only had its little seed pods but also little onion sets growing between them as well, just like the tree onions.

I assume they will grow on if I stick them in pots to get them going?


I have grown marrow and squash plants this year from saved seed donated by my neighbour and they have done wonderfully well. I am saving seed from this crop for next year so fingers crossed.

Bugs



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 05 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Seed saving Reply with quote
    

JB wrote:
This year I was thinking about trying to save the courgette and tomato seeds but I can't remember if the courgette was an F1 variety and wonder if the tomatoes might end up as a bizarre red alert / alicante / tumbler hybrid?


Courgettes and squashes and melond and cucumbers too I think, are harlots who will cross with anything similar so even if it's not a F1 you might have some kind of rogue plants in there unless you follow all the instructions on how to keep it pure. I would probably not bother with that unless you particularly adore that variety.

I believe most tomatoes are OK unless they are a type whose stigma protrudes from the stamens (I'm sure I've got that wrong, always got them mixed up). I've just finished rinsing seeds of Salt Spring Sunrise and Veeroma (from the HDRA) according to Tahir's instructions. Got loads now so I hope they turn out all right! I grew them outside and next to each other.

DavidW



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 31
Location: South Wales
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 05 3:22 pm    Post subject: Seed Saving Reply with quote
    

How do you prepare and store the seeds once collected

David

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44634
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 05 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Seed Saving Reply with quote
    

DavidW wrote:
How do you prepare and store the seeds once collected

David


Of what?

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