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RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 11:58 am Post subject:

jema wrote:

RoryD wrote:

There is an overview of Affiliate Marketing here.

https://www.paidonresults.com/overview.html

I don't have my banners up and out anywhere yet, as I'm still in the sign up stage, but hope to go live with the scheme in the next couple of weeks.

What i cannot really see in their info is how the system is kept honest. it is one thing tracking cookies, quite another registering that a sale has taken place. This requires a level in integration into either your online shop, or it means you have to use theirs.

I used to run a few affiliate marketing adverts on another site, and I know dman well that I did not get paid for all sales.

Interesting point. I know from my point of view as a merchant that I will only pay for sales which have genuinely come through, so my interests are covered. I think it may be that there is a kind of symbiotic culture here, whereby traders need affiliates and vice versa. If you refuse to pay for a lead, then your online reputation goes down and people won't advertise your product- not unlike ebay. The win- win nature of the relationship keeps everyone playing fair. How the actual click through tracking cookie works I don't know though.

jema
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 12:26 pm Post subject:

RoryD wrote:

jema wrote:

RoryD wrote:

That is the point though, unless the tracking system is effective, you will not know you owe or are owed commission.
Since this is such an integral part of the system, they really should say more about it.

RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 12:38 pm Post subject:
You might find a bit more here, this is where I've been picking up how the whole system works. Be aware though, there's a whole different kinda person drawn to this forum! https://www.a4uforum.co.uk/cmps_index.php

ken69

Joined: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 316
Location: Norfolk

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 4:04 pm Post subject:
Not ethical, surely, to dump cookies on people. I regularly clear out the biscuits.

RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 5:34 pm Post subject:
Interesting point. Its a form of advertising and marketing, and as such is inherently wasteful in terms of resources and is an invasion of our privacy. I suppose that it as opposed to wasting paper like a newspaper advert it wastes your/our time instead.

jema
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 28116
Location: escaped from Swindon

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 05 5:41 pm Post subject:
I think cookies are widely misunderstood. They do not transmit anything private to anyine, they simply allow a web site to tune to what you have previously done in that domain.

RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 05 10:28 am Post subject:

Treac has very kindly put an advert for Saltpepper up on the front page of Downsizer, and my rough example Downsizer Mini Shop area is here https://www.saltpepper.co.uk/index.php?cPath=44&osCsid=c23b4ced4e0d4d440709155d6f2c8931.
Do we have an idea of how many people are visiting the Downsizer site a week at the moment?

The offer is there for anyone to use the Saltpepper payment facility, and to take advantage of a really cheap way of selling online- supported by a nice big advert on the Downsizer site. To re-state the offer, I'll list your stock for free, no standing charges, no monthly fee's. And if you sell anything, I'll take a % to contribute to the actual cost of the transaction.

If anyone is interested please PM me and we can talk about it. One thing that strikes me about our current traders is that there might not be much there thats suitable for selling in this way.... Am I wrong? Are people hiding their lights, talents and skills under a sea of bushells?

What we really need is a resurgence of interest in Behemoth's sausage.....

I'll leave the shop example area open for a couple of days- if there's no interest however, I'll take it down as it looks a little lost on its own.

barefoot_boo

Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 399
Location: Wiltshire

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 1:07 pm Post subject:
Bumpity-bump. Has there been much interest Rory?

RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 1:20 pm Post subject:

No interest at the moment. I think that Treac is right in trying to get us all using the front page to advertise first, and there's been some good progress there. The actual shop, and taking payments might be the next step.

It has pushed me into doing a bit with our links section here
https://www.saltpepper.co.uk/links.php?osCsid=176faa07bb481b0d55abf2c81de97764
so feel free to add in your links (anybody) if you'd like.

I'm more than happy to re-visit it at any point in the future though. The offer is there for anyone thinking about trading online but frightened by the set up process and costs, as a first port of call before getting a proper online shop.

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jema
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: escaped from Swindon

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 1:25 pm Post subject:

I am a little saddened by the lack of interest, but not totally surprised.

I think it is all about reaching a critical mass, when we get there on site trading will explode in a big way, but we cannot making it happen overnight.....

Unless that is we pick out a set of traders to advertise like the meat producers, knock up a dedicated page and spend out the site funds on google adwords.

I think there is a decent argument for doing this.

RoryD

Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 692
Location: West Yorkshire

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 1:45 pm Post subject:

Did we manage to pull together a list of traders/ potential traders from anywhere? I agree with Jema that the meat producers (?) appear to be our most coherent and logical group but I wonder if we need to be developing the Downsizer brand (which makes me sound like a %&*+) as opposed to individual producers- though I'm not clear how is best to do this.

I'm still with Treac's approach of developing the adverts first, then when we've got a nice virtual arcade of "shops" work out where to go from there to help them all to trade better online.

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 3:15 pm Post subject:

I suggested this by PM to Rory, and he suggested I posted it so here goes:

We have a t-shirt printing business, and we do organic cotton and can get hemp t-shirts. If anyone would be interested, we could make some downsizer t-shirts, with a selection of phrases or sayings on?

These would be totally at cost, we would not make any profit at all, so it would be around £4 to £5 plus post (currently94p!) The hemp ones would be a bit more expensive. If there was a lot of interest, I may be able to get them cheaper.

Anyone interested?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45431
Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 3:19 pm Post subject:

Penny wrote:

Anyone interested?

Yes.

Got a website?

Penny Outskirts

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 3:22 pm Post subject:
www.squatorange.com

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45431
Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 3:25 pm Post subject:
Obviously you're welcome to advertise for free on Downsizer....

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