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marigold



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:

Ran a de-gunking wash in my washing machine, and checked the filter.


What do you put in your machine to degunk it? Mine stinks, but the variations of hot wash I've tried don't seem to work very well. I've tried vinegar, washing soda and bleach (separately). The stupid modern drainage system causes the problem, I think, though I do clean the outlet hose from time to time.

gil
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

marigold wrote:
gil wrote:

Ran a de-gunking wash in my washing machine, and checked the filter.


What do you put in your machine to degunk it? Mine stinks, but the variations of hot wash I've tried don't seem to work very well. I've tried vinegar, washing soda and bleach (separately). The stupid modern drainage system causes the problem, I think, though I do clean the outlet hose from time to time.


I used 500g of soda crystals and a hot wash, and washed out the detergent feeder trays.

This is the first time I've done mine (in over 10 years). It doesn;t particularly stink, but the washing isn;t as fresh as it once was. I also started using washing liquid as well as powder about a year ago, and I understand that is really bad for gunking up machines.

In future, I'm reverting to powder for whites, and to use liquid only for darks/colours. I'd stopped using powder because it never seemed to dissolve properly.

It may well turn out that what I've done doesn't help with the freshness issue, though hopefully it will have degunked any gunk and extended the life of the machine.

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

marigold wrote:
gil wrote:

Ran a de-gunking wash in my washing machine, and checked the filter.


What do you put in your machine to degunk it? Mine stinks, but the variations of hot wash I've tried don't seem to work very well. I've tried vinegar, washing soda and bleach (separately). The stupid modern drainage system causes the problem, I think, though I do clean the outlet hose from time to time.


Yes, I am having degunking fun too atm. Ran a boil wash with some tea towels, which seems to have release some infinite internal supply of gunk. Now everything is coming out of the machine with little specks of horridness all over it.

marigold



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

judith wrote:
marigold wrote:
gil wrote:

Ran a de-gunking wash in my washing machine, and checked the filter.


What do you put in your machine to degunk it? Mine stinks, but the variations of hot wash I've tried don't seem to work very well. I've tried vinegar, washing soda and bleach (separately). The stupid modern drainage system causes the problem, I think, though I do clean the outlet hose from time to time.


Yes, I am having degunking fun too atm. Ran a boil wash with some tea towels, which seems to have release some infinite internal supply of gunk. Now everything is coming out of the machine with little specks of horridness all over it.


Eeeuuw!

@ gil - thanks. I 'll have another go using more soda crystals, I only used a cupful last time.

Washing smells OK, but the dank whiff from the machine is beginning to pervade the kitchen.

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It is revolting.
Have just run out of washing soda, so will have to get some more and perhaps run another boil wash with a couple of dog towels.

gil
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just thought I'd split this useful topic into a thread of its own.

So if anyone has any hints, tips, etc, please contribute !

I've always run my machine on half the amount of powder, at cold or 30C wash, except the last year or so when I've also used liquid wash.

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:
I also started using washing liquid as well as powder about a year ago, and I understand that is really bad for gunking up machines.

In future, I'm reverting to powder for whites, and to use liquid only for darks/colours. I'd stopped using powder because it never seemed to dissolve properly.


Ooh. I had always assumed that the liquid would be better because of the dissolving properly issue.

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I am sure that the cold water washing is the source of a lot of these problems. I am constantly wiping away gunk that collects in the seals - have to do that every couple of weeks, and I'm not doing that much washing here.

Nell Merionwen



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've used soda crystals in the drum and white vinegar in the tray before. The idea was the get that fizz thing going on during the cycle.
seemed to work at the time.

alice



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's partly due to lower temperatures and partly due to all the ingredients that have been removed or reduced in even biological detergents.
I consider 60 deg to be a hot wash nowadays but 10 years ago I regularly washed at 90deg.
Over the years I've made my own powder and used 'eco-friendly' but I'm back to plain old Daz powder now.
A wm engineer told me years ago to use what I liked but at least use a box of daz every couple of months to clean out the machine.
Mine gets a bit wiffy occasionally - then I just do a couple of hot washes and it goes.
Using ordinary powder and no softener I don't get that grey slime in the drawer and seals that I used to get.

gil
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What is it about Daz, or would any bog-standard powder do ?
If so, bio or non-bio ?

alice



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Dunno. It just stuck in my mind. Maybe he had shares in a daz factory
Bio.
I use bog-standard 'big-box' too. Not tablets or liquid or double concentrated or any of the variations they come up with to make it acceptable to charge more for less.

lottie



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My machine is gunky and smelly---I put it down to 30 washes but a hot wash and vinegar didn't sort it---I never thought it could be changing from powder to liquid,I just assumed liquid would be better at low temp.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Question for hard water areas: limescale is alkaline, so can be removed with vinegar, correct? And washing soda is also alkaline (?) so would that do any good at all in a limescale-d machine??

Midland Spinner



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Our machine gets used for oily overalls as well as ordinary washes - it used to collect a lot of black gunk and the overalls got progressively blacker. Now I put a dash of washing-up liquid (fairy or equivalent) in with most washes - seems to help get shot of the oil that accumulates. Not too much fairy, otherwise you get a flood of froth escaping from the powder drawer.

Since I started with the washing up liquid the boiler suits have got gradually bluer again and we don't get as much grey on the whites as we used to.

I think a lot of it is the useless modern powders - they don't work very well at all.

n.b. if you don't wash oily overalls this tip may not be much use to you - or it may, you decide!

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