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Midland Spinner
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: Under a green roof
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 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 4:59 pm Post subject: Printer Stress |
 
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Every time my computer installs an update it stops being able to contact our wireless printer. And it has never managed to get its head around the idea that this printer is also a scanner - if I want to use that function I have to boot up OH's laptop 
Every so often the computer stops being able to print - It can see it, but stoutly maintains that the printer is offline.
The only way I've found to deal with this is to go to the printer & devices window and 'remove the device'. Then 'install new printer'. I do it so often that I've copied the drivers onto my documents so that I don't have to have to disc permanently in my dvd drive.
I did once find a way to stop it 'helpfully' updating the driver - which worked until Windows updated itself and reset the settings  Now I can't remember how I told it not to update the driver every time.
Can anyone suggest a way to permanently install the driver in a way that means that I can print without having to remove & install the printer Every Time.
I've got Windows 7 and an HP Deskjet F4580 printer/scanner. |
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Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
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I knew this would be an HP. I know the answer, let me have a peek, somewhere. It's something resetting to something....
Eta:http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Web-Printing-Software/Photosmart-D110-Off-Line/td-p/535991
This is wasn't I was thinking of, but it might help. |
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troyannick
Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Posts: 605
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Had same problem with wireless connection Ive got an HP4700 scanner printer copier, I just use the cable instead. It used to connect to the guy next doors printer at work.  |
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lettucewoman
Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: Tiptoe in the Forest!!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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printers...all of them....are the work of the devil (if I believed in such a thing  )
They never work properly as wireless and connected aint much better....I am onto my third wireless printer and its..carp!
HP were recommended to me....I knew they would be carp too!!  |
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sally_in_wales
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005
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Location: sunny wales
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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mine do this too, deeply annoying |
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troyannick
Joined: 24 Dec 2011
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they are all pretty hopeless, every printer Ive had, probably about 6 in total have all been toublesome although this one is slightly better the HP4700 but its started to chew the paper arrrgh
scan and copy quality is really good. |
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Marionb
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Location: Mid-Wales
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm happy with my HP printer except for the fact that although its a wireless printer, I cant get it to work wirelessly...
Thats probably more my fault than the printer's though! |
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Midland Spinner
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 2931
Location: Under a green roof
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick wrote: |
I knew this would be an HP. I know the answer, let me have a peek, somewhere. It's something resetting to something....
Eta:http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Web-Printing-Software/Photosmart-D110-Off-Line/td-p/535991
This is wasn't I was thinking of, but it might help. |
I can't seem to make that work.
I can't have it connected - it;s too far from the printer |
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earthyvirgo
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 7972
Location: creating prints in the loft, Gerlan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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My HP decided to stop talking to my laptop the other week and refused point blank to re-install, either drivers or printer.
I ended up going into the registry to delete all files/drives/mentions of the printer/drivers (very scary moment), as this was supposed to let me re-install. It didn't.
A few days later, I tried again, this time, without the printer attached to the laptop ... I just did an "Add new printer" and went through the wizard. All back to normal.
vegplot thinks it was related to updates here too.
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Pilsbury
Joined: 13 Dec 2004
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Location: East london/Essex
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We had a lexmark on all our computers and my brother bought us a new wireless printer Christmas 2010, we can't install it cos lexmark has stolen the print spooler and won't recognise the new printer drivers or anything about it, tried everything we can to strip out the lexmark but nothing works. |
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earthyvirgo
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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Location: creating prints in the loft, Gerlan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Pilsbury wrote: |
| We had a lexmark on all our computers and my brother bought us a new wireless printer Christmas 2010, we can't install it cos lexmark has stolen the print spooler and won't recognise the new printer drivers or anything about it, tried everything we can to strip out the lexmark but nothing works. |
Have you removed it from the registry?
Deleting it from Control Panel/printers isn't enough.
There's an article here about someone's lexmark 'eating' their other printers. http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1058902754
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Pilsbury
Joined: 13 Dec 2004
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Location: East london/Essex
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| earthyvirgo wrote: |
| Pilsbury wrote: |
| We had a lexmark on all our computers and my brother bought us a new wireless printer Christmas 2010, we can't install it cos lexmark has stolen the print spooler and won't recognise the new printer drivers or anything about it, tried everything we can to strip out the lexmark but nothing works. |
Have you removed it from the registry?
Deleting it from Control Panel/printers isn't enough.
There's an article here about someone's lexmark 'eating' their other printers. http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1058902754
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We used the uninstall tab but its still lodged in the print spooler rubbish, I hate touching stuff like the register or other stuff cos I'm IT phobic |
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earthyvirgo
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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Location: creating prints in the loft, Gerlan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Pilsbury wrote: |
| earthyvirgo wrote: |
| Pilsbury wrote: |
| We had a lexmark on all our computers and my brother bought us a new wireless printer Christmas 2010, we can't install it cos lexmark has stolen the print spooler and won't recognise the new printer drivers or anything about it, tried everything we can to strip out the lexmark but nothing works. |
Have you removed it from the registry?
Deleting it from Control Panel/printers isn't enough.
There's an article here about someone's lexmark 'eating' their other printers. http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1058902754
EV |
We used the uninstall tab but its still lodged in the print spooler rubbish, I hate touching stuff like the register or other stuff cos I'm IT phobic |
Yep, uninstall won't do it (daft really!).
I don't blame you at all about not wanting to fiddle with critical registry stuff.
I wouldn't have messed with it had vegplot not been a few feet away.
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Nature'sgrafter
Joined: 22 Feb 2012
Posts: 527
Location: Sanday , Orkney
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I have seen this problem and neither printer or computer was to blame it's your wireless router and it's dhcp leasing what happens is the printer loses the address that the router gave it as the lease time's out then the computer can no longer find it. the solution is to give the printer a permanent address outside of the dhcp scope and then re-install it on the computer. Having a fixed address also (usually) resolves the scanner issue. |
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lettucewoman
Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: Tiptoe in the Forest!!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 12 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Nature'sgrafter wrote: |
| I have seen this problem and neither printer or computer was to blame it's your wireless router and it's dhcp leasing what happens is the printer loses the address that the router gave it as the lease time's out then the computer can no longer find it. the solution is to give the printer a permanent address outside of the dhcp scope and then re-install it on the computer. Having a fixed address also (usually) resolves the scanner issue. |
Anyone understand this?? I'd do it if I knew what on earth was being said....  |
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