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NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 9:31 am    Post subject: HELP dog with spinal problem Reply with quote
    

Just back from the vets and still reeling.

This morning my little collie bitch was dragging each back leg randomly, refused to go out for a wee...straight off to vet we went, poor thing was shaking all the way.
Anyway, there seems to be a problem in lumbar vertebrae - legs and tail affected, but reflexes were there. Although her left foot was slow on the pinch test.
She's been given anti-inflammatories and I hope to god they make a difference in 24 hours - otherwise it's a choice between scratching together a few grand for the likes of MRI tests...or I presume the "other option".

So... if you know of any similar cases please let me know what happened, good or bad, so I can try and weigh this all up. I don't need a diagnosis if the prognosis is still terrible, if you see what I mean.


mochyn



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No ideas about what to do but I'm sending my love.

Nell Merionwen



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ginkotree's friend had a dog that lost the use of it's back legs. Boglin would sit in the yard and roll the ball towards her so she could lean over and catch it. Given time it's body healed itself and she now has full use again. She was definitely a dog that most would have had sent to doggy heaven. they persevered and cared for her. Lots of hard work but a happy result

judith



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How old is she?

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

She's just turned 5.

In terms of a long/hard recovery - fine. But if this is a permanent disability, it would destroy her to have to be left without me (she follows from room to room, never mind at work!)...



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Went



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What did the Vet say? A problem with the lumber vertebrae covers a multitude of problems. Being so young and coming on quickly would suggest it is trauma rather than degenerative - which is good.

Give the medication chance to kick in and let her take time to recover - make her comfortable and make sure she gets plenty of fluids - rest will help if it is trauma -

Is there any incident you can recall that might have caused this? Jumping for a ball /stick etc?

I hope she recovers without problems - it is heartbreaking to see a loved pet become incapacitated.

judith



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

She's beautiful.

The back end is going on my collie x, but he is twice her age. The symptoms sound similar but with him they came on gradually over 2-3 years. We have good days and bad ones. Sometimes his legs are so stiff that they drag on the floor like your dog's, other days he is quite happy toddling around.
It is very distressing to watch, particularly since my pooch is like yours and insists on following me everywhere (sometimes we have to shut the doors so he can't keep following me up and downstairs).

I know that this will be the thing that does for him in the end, but while he can still get around, we manage. The weather makes a big difference - on cold, damp days he struggles a bit, and there can be shivering and whimpering until he has warmed up by the fire. Massage, warmth and rest are the things that seem to help most (I know, I know - how do you make a collie rest? ). He was on anti-inflammatories for a while, but mostly he seems to be stiff, rather than actually in pain, so I have stopped them for now and it doesn't seem to make that much difference.

Hopefully the anti-inflammatories will help your girl and you can find a way to manage this - it doesn't have to be an immediate death sentence.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Vet said she could have been hiding it for months, now on a massive guilt trip as I have been joking/grumbling about her being lazy / not keen on the sheep work. And she's had a couple of accidents in the kitchen, which I blamed on me staying in bed too long!

Only thing we did differently yesterday was wade/scramble through floodwater - she was thoroughly disgusted with me afterwards but physically fine. Jumped in and out of van as per usual.

I've got some puppy pads in case she doesn't want to get outside for a wee, will probably soak her dinner to make sure she gets fluids (she can be funny about drinking).

It's the sudden onset that has thrown me (or is it sudden? Has she been soldiering on, poor sod?). "Wear and tear" in an older dog would be expected.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

umm ,base your descisions on prognosis

hugs

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Panic subsiding gradually, we (well, she!) have wobbled to the garden for a wee and a drink. Much improved already

mochyn



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    


Went



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
Panic subsiding gradually, we (well, she!) have wobbled to the garden for a wee and a drink. Much improved already

That's a good sign but don't rush her to exercise too soon - give her time.

judith



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
Panic subsiding gradually, we (well, she!) have wobbled to the garden for a wee and a drink. Much improved already


That's a great sign. Probably the cold wet conditions yesterday made her stiffer than usual. Just make sure she warms up well after being outside.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gawber wrote:
NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
Panic subsiding gradually, we (well, she!) have wobbled to the garden for a wee and a drink. Much improved already

That's a good sign but don't rush her to exercise too soon - give her time.


Absolutely... luckily it's a teeny tiny house "Bed rest and loo breaks" were our instructions.

She's now firmly back on her sheepskin rug. Home raised, organically tanned Hebridean, no less

judith



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 12 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
She's now firmly back on her sheepskin rug. Home raised, organically tanned Hebridean, no less


And some people say I'm soft for giving mine a patchwork quilt.

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