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Lorrainelovesplants
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Midland Spinner
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 2931 Location: Under a green roof
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Midland Spinner
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Midland Spinner
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 12 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Midland Spinner wrote: |
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I suspect there's more to it than just non-payers. |
Yes there is, but non-payers are the worst part of the problem. (I simplified it for posting on a public forum!)
I didn't bother mentioning weather, cancelled events, recession, difficulty/cost of getting hold of materials, increased utility bills etc. etc. as I assumed that most people would realise that the the problem was more complex than I put in one short post! |
I mean non-payers are relatively easy to rectify, compared to all the others things. You can charge interest, take deposits or payment up front, not take work from persistent offenders, etc. That may be the excuse she is making for the decision but I doubt it's the biggest problem overall. |
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Midland Spinner
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 2931 Location: Under a green roof
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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yummersetter
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 3241 Location: Somerset
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Midland Spinner
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Rob R
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Midland Spinner
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 2931 Location: Under a green roof
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 12 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Rob R wrote: |
Hairyloon wrote: |
Midland Spinner wrote: |
yummersetter wrote: |
That depends where the power lies - if the slow-paying customer has a host of suppliers to chose from and can easily drop you off the list, and you need their orders to stay in business, aggressive tactics can put you out of business far quicker that a month or two's wait for payment. |
Or if what you supply is non-essential or luxury they can easily decide to do without. |
So you are faced with the choice of losing a customer because you don't want to deal with someone who doesn't pay, and losing a customer because they are upset that you went to court.
I know I am a bit odd, but I am not finding any difficulty in choosing. |
A customer is only an asset if they pay (it must be something about seamstresses, I've been telling my mum for years that she needs to not treat everyone the same and up the prices for the late payers - if you're going to have to wait for the money, make it worth waiting for!).
Perhaps she should turn her hand to repairs and alterations as the luxury market dries up & repairs are a little more cost effective against buying new. |
1) It's up to my friend, I was only commenting in a general way - trying to highlight the plight of creativity in a recession. This isn't about my business (we don't usually take commissions - we make things & sell them, which is different and has its own issues).
2) I meant that if you aggressively chase one customer for defaulting it may well put off other possible customers who probably only hear half the story. in my experience, the ones that don't pay have the loudest voices & the most elastic memories about who said what.
3) Repairs & alterations would be just as stifling to creativity imho and not as well paid as a 'proper job'. I understand her choice to take a job, I'm just sad that selfish people have led her to it by choosing to order stuff & then not completing their part of the deal. |
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yummersetter
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 3241 Location: Somerset
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