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dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 14 11:52 pm    Post subject: rspca tickboxing Reply with quote
    

last sunday whilst out with the monthly long dog rescue walk we met a nice if slightly troubled hound(not a long dog but described as a lurcher) who has been rescued ,unsuccessfully rehomed and returned to the care of the rspca

as we were considering a new friend he was a possible candidate

so having watched his behavior, met him ,chatted with him ,and established his known history and nature from his walker we considered him

we decided to inquire further so today i rang them with a view to checking him out for behavior with me one to one for a while and taking a allergy sample with a bit of clean kitchen roll(sd is allergic to many hounds )and to see if he liked me enough to take a chance on escape from the kennel.

having filled in a rather naive form which had one and a half lines to describe any pets that i may have had many rather challenging introductions to the family and what happened to them had no consideration of home bred ,from chums ,bought ,informal rescues ,formal rescues ,wolf wrangling ,foster mutts ,farm critters etc,too soft to cull tiny and sending him off with a dowry to hillside , there was no space for being a rare snail breeder for london zoo ,frog raiser etc etc etc

i had mentioned that pups had been considered and probably decided against (cos there are plenty of mutts that need a home )which was why he might make a nice new family member ,he has no bits and at this stage im keeping all options open and checking a new rescue hound would be a better choice than finding homes for many home growns to get the new pal for ki

so even though i wanted to see if he might be suitable he had no chance of a super new home cos they have a tick list and a no sensible options based on mutt and person

i put this here cos the naughty corner is a bit less public and for what i really feel about this naughty corner aint enough publicity ,he was misplaced by tickbox but i suspect he could have been placed from me and him talking dog(i speak wolf and saluki as well)on sunday

there is no way i would spay ki so as to find out if another mutt might become family rather than find a new chum and then think about a spay later

the arrogance to and deliberate ignorance of me or how to place a mutt displayed by them has put me right off anything they do or say

i wasnt a fan of the rspca but the mutt seemed potentially suitable and now i am enemy rather than friend of the rspca which is rather sad cos we should be on the same team but we are not

no apologies for a rant tis good to share knowledge of organizations and this one does tick box rather than common ground

Barefoot Andrew
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nothing sensible to say - just
A.

Nicky cigreen



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

terrible shame for the dog. He doesn't stand a chance if they take that attitude


I'm not surprised though - rspca have completely lost their way IMO

Katieowl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'm on the FB pages of a number of small rescue orgs via where we got our dogs from and my daughters doglet (sight unseen his rescue was via being spotted on the internet, and drove her from Cardigan to Hopwood services to collect said mutt!)

Without exception the consensus seems to be re dogs that RSPCA is a five letter, four letter word. They are forever trying to avert dogs from their clutches.

The box ticking variety of selection for re-homing is killing dogs. There is probably no such thing as the perfect home for many dogs, but a good enough home with a responsible owner would save many from the final walk

Kate

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What reason did they give for not letting you take it further? :/

bobs



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dont get me started on the rspca .. so i wont give my thoughts on them.

but if you looking to rehoming a lurcher / longdog

have a look on here https://www.lurcherlink.org/llink/forum/index.php

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Katieowl wrote:


The box ticking variety of selection for re-homing is killing dogs. There is probably no such thing as the perfect home for many dogs, but a good enough home with a responsible owner would save many from the final walk

Kate


Absolutely. I have always owned rescue dogs, and I also used to be a volunteer home checker for German Shepherd Dog Rescue. I understand the need to ensure that the home/ garden / new owners and their lifestyles are appropriate. When required I would work with the prospective new owners to help them reach the required standard, as well as getting the best match of dog to owner.
The RSPCA however have a policy whereby the dog if not rehomed is ultimately put to sleep. How is that preventing cruelty to animals? Dogs that become permanent residents in a rescue centre still have a happy and good quality life.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

that they had had him returned (so the tickbox didnt work first go
)

that ki might come into season(last was december so next would be sep/oct therefore plenty of time to settle a new neutered mutt and then get her spayed)

thing is he may have proved unsuitable if he failed the wipe and sniff allergy test if not i might have taken him in but we didnt get that far

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bobs wrote:
dont get me started on the rspca .. so i wont give my thoughts on them.

but if you looking to rehoming a lurcher / longdog

have a look on here https://www.lurcherlink.org/llink/forum/index.php


thanks the link has some nice folk and hounds

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Another good rescue link here if you are after a GSD.

https://www.germanshepherdrescue.co.uk/

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lloyd wrote:
Another good rescue link here if you are after a GSD.

https://www.germanshepherdrescue.co.uk/


i like gsd/wolf and have had 2 of them but they are far too allergenic for tt and daughter .ronnie brought them out in lumps and made the asthma need many inhaler squirts.hence ki the saluki and looking for a mutt with a similar low allergy rating

tis odd how different types are very different even if the fur looks similar

Katieowl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Poodles are supposedly low allergy, but I can't visualise you with a poodle!

I used to use this on my dog when my friend came to visit https://www.allergybestbuys.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/petalcleanse-thepetallergysolution-90101m.shtml not sure it would be cost effective if the dog lived with you. My friend went on to live with here own staff for a number of years, she kept him very clean, but was on shed loads of asthma meds anyway. who know?

Kate

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

due to the muddy nature of the running field regular showers are normal here which helps a lot even with a buzzcut wolf.ron's sporty look was rather smart

i think that single coat is essential as underfur really seems to set of allergies

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Katieowl wrote:
Poodles are supposedly low allergy, but I can't visualise you with a poodle! Kate


i cant imagine ki with a poodle ,i recon i could cope with a big one if it had a punk hairdo rather than the cuts one usually sees

Katieowl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 14 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Like this?

https://www.nothingsnormal.com/weird/zombie-poodle/




Kate

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