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Bodger



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 9:24 am    Post subject: Stumped. Bird ID please.If you can Reply with quote
    

This morning, we've had a bird in the garden that we've never had before feeding on the fat balls. Not only that, I don't recall ever having seen one before anywhere.
Normally, when there's a newcomer, I generally have a clue as to what it might be and go to the books or internet for confirmation but this time, I'm stumped. I haven't got a clue.
Sods law, I managed to jigger the camera up yesterday, so here goes with the best description that I can give.
The bird was sparrow sized but appeared to be more elongated. It didn't have a finches bill, it was quite long and pointed. At first glance we thought it to be a red poll but the cap wasn't right. It was uniform olive green in colour and extended towards the back of its neck.
The birds underneath was light solid grey in colour and its back had sparrow like markings. Its tail was quite short.
I pride myself in knowing the birds that come to our garden but this
one has me beaten. I'll know it if I can see a picture of it again, so can you help me out? Its definitely not one of your common or garden birds, or I'd know what it was.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

considering the weather we have had it might be worth checking the usa id books

Colin & Jan



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Garden warbler? I think there are a few beginning to move across from the Continent.

Chiff Chaff

Hen blackcap but they do have light brown head plumage

LynneA



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds like a warbler of some kind.

This Winter there have been more vagrants from the Americas mentioned on the birdwatching sites that from mainland Europe. Could easily be a waif or stray from the US or Canada.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a few years ago i saw what seemed to be a purple version of a blackbird .

i didnt get the camera in time and could not find it in the bird books or on line

a while later i was looking at a 1940's book which had a drawing of one ,purple blackbird from the usa last seen since the 1930's ,turns out mine might well be a fugee

i recon your birdy could well be a refugee from somewhere

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Colin & Jan wrote:
Garden warbler? I think there are a few beginning to move across from the Continent.

Chiff Chaff

Hen blackcap but they do have light brown head plumage


Definitely not the last two but I'll check out the garden warbler.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nope. not that one either.

https://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/gardenwarbler/

alice



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Siskin?

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No we have dozens of those Alice.

Piggyphile



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 14 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is it one of these?
https://identify.whatbird.com/obj/617/overview/Green-tailed_Towhee.aspx

This is a list of sparrow sized american things
https://www.whatbird.com/browse/objs/All/birds_na_147/59/Family/11107/Sparrows%20(Emberizidae)/default.aspx

Mr O



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 14 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Bird ID please.If you can Reply with quote
    

Bodger wrote:
This morning, we've had a bird in the garden that we've never had before feeding on the fat balls. Not only that, I don't recall ever having seen one before anywhere.
Normally, when there's a newcomer, I generally have a clue as to what it might be and go to the books or internet for confirmation but this time, I'm stumped. I haven't got a clue.
Sods law, I managed to jigger the camera up yesterday, so here goes with the best description that I can give.
The bird was sparrow sized but appeared to be more elongated. It didn't have a finches bill, it was quite long and pointed. At first glance we thought it to be a red poll but the cap wasn't right. It was uniform olive green in colour and extended towards the back of its neck.
The birds underneath was light solid grey in colour and its back had sparrow like markings. Its tail was quite short.
I pride myself in knowing the birds that come to our garden but this
one has me beaten. I'll know it if I can see a picture of it again, so can you help me out? Its definitely not one of your common or garden birds, or I'd know what it was.


Sounds like a female purple finch, but no one could tell without a picture.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 14 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I suppose you have ruled out Dunnock? Apart from the olive green head, the rest fits.

Henry

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 14 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Definitely not Buzzy, we get quite a few of those but he's been back again today. The camera is still US and the picture that my wife has attempted to take on her mobile phone isn't very good. I'm pretty sure that its a warbler of some description but its the coloured cap that I can't find a match for.

pollyanna



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 14 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Linnet?

pollyanna



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 14 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Female blackcap has a red head.

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