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Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 14 11:29 am    Post subject: Wings  Reply with quote    

I have been given some wings..the feathers are still attached together and they have been in salt for a while to dry out the fleshy bit..is there a further treatment that needs to happen to preserve the structure...

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 14 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

desalting before drying can help with salt cured parts as it reduces moisture uptake(=rot) after drying

without using nasty chemicals a light smoking might help but it depends what you want them for

the victorian hat decorators used mercuric compounds to preserve whole birds which probably was a bad idea

cured as though for furs but longer cure and extra drying might be a good compromise for long lasting and not growing mushrooms etc

if the "marrow " inside the bones is not cured they will rot if they get damp so removing bones and replacing them with sticks is an option

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 14 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks for that...definitely dont want mushrooms to grow on them...

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Might be quite ornamental. Agree you don't though.

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I was thinking that myself...I love toadstools and mushrooms..but in the right place....

I was wondering if I dried them out in the bottom oven of the rayburn on low,,with the door left open slightly..would it ruin the feathers..I am not able to smoke them at the moment.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

drying should be more air rather than hotter than about 50 C for feathery things imho

alison
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ginkotree

What are you going to do with them?

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Making hats, fancy dress items etc..I have a friend who goes to festivals who sells all sorts of fantastic creations..she is showing how to make wings at weekends here....all very frivolous but making Fun times is essential in this day and age in my opinion..

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 14 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
drying should be more air rather than hotter than about 50 C for feathery things imho


I only ever have it ticking over on a low heat..and with the door slightly open on the bottom oven it will be below 50c...shall try out a few feathers as a tester first....and then maybe with salt on the more fleshy parts on the real thing...worth a try.

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 14 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Have had them sitting in the bottom of the rayburn with the door ajar for six days and they seem to be drying out at a steady rate and holding together...all the pink has gone. will leave them there for another couple of days to get right to the middle.The salt that was stuck to them is dry so it seems I might have success

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 14 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i recon the outside dries much faster than the bones so it they are not in the way leave em quite a while

Ginkotree



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 14 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks for that..I was worried the feathers might not like the constant warmth but they seem to be staying in good condition.,so they can stay there.

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