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jema
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

whenever I have had the misfortune to try windows 8 I have found it deeply unpleasant. The interface is not discoverable you have to know which keys to press in advance and that simply sucks.

It at least by default forgets the fact that the majority of users are using a non touch screen monitor and a mouse.

henchard



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
whenever I have had the misfortune to try windows 8 I have found it deeply unpleasant. The interface is not discoverable you have to know which keys to press in advance and that simply sucks.

It at least by default forgets the fact that the majority of users are using a non touch screen monitor and a mouse.


This is where I get completely baffled. It is merely a few clicks to set Windows 8 to boot straight to Desktop it looks and feels almost exactly the same as my old XP.

Here's my Win 8 desktop that I go straight to when I boot up. You never have to see the Windows tiles if you don't want to.



If you miss right clicking on the start menu for your programmes there are third party replacements; but even easier just put a folder called my programmes on the taskbar and drag any shortcuts into it. You then have a pop up menu of your most used programmes (next to the Windows button bottom left on my taskbar).

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Looks fine to me. I work on a mix of XP, Vista and 7 machines, I don't really have problems with any of them. Will upgrade to 10

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

henchard wrote:
jema wrote:
whenever I have had the misfortune to try windows 8 I have found it deeply unpleasant. The interface is not discoverable you have to know which keys to press in advance and that simply sucks.

It at least by default forgets the fact that the majority of users are using a non touch screen monitor and a mouse.


This is where I get completely baffled. It is merely a few clicks to set Windows 8 to boot straight to Desktop it looks and feels almost exactly the same as my old XP.

Here's my Win 8 desktop that I go straight to when I boot up. You never have to see the Windows tiles if you don't want to.



If you miss right clicking on the start menu for your programmes there are third party replacements; but even easier just put a folder called my programmes on the taskbar and drag any shortcuts into it. You then have a pop up menu of your most used programmes (next to the Windows button bottom left on my taskbar).


Does it allow you to shrink pictures, tho?

henchard



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:


Does it allow you to shrink pictures, tho?


Resized at your request sir!

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 15 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It is the greatest operating system, ever.

jema
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

henchard wrote:
jema wrote:
whenever I have had the misfortune to try windows 8 I have found it deeply unpleasant. The interface is not discoverable you have to know which keys to press in advance and that simply sucks.

It at least by default forgets the fact that the majority of users are using a non touch screen monitor and a mouse.


This is where I get completely baffled. It is merely a few clicks to set Windows 8 to boot straight to Desktop it looks and feels almost exactly the same as my old XP.

Here's my Win 8 desktop that I go straight to when I boot up. You never have to see the Windows tiles if you don't want to.



If you miss right clicking on the start menu for your programmes there are third party replacements; but even easier just put a folder called my programmes on the taskbar and drag any shortcuts into it. You then have a pop up menu of your most used programmes (next to the Windows button bottom left on my taskbar).


So a few mysterious actions will stop it being f*cked up. I don't know those actions... I expect to boot to something I can f8cking navigate without knowing mysteries.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

[quote="jema:]

So a few mysterious actions will stop it being f*cked up. I don't know those actions... I expect to boot to something I can f8cking navigate without knowing mysteries.[/quote]


Sounds Right to me !


henchard



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:

So a few mysterious actions will stop it being f*cked up. I don't know those actions... I expect to boot to something I can f8cking navigate without knowing mysteries.


So the software is 'deeply unpleasant' because the operator can't be bothered to do the following

Right-click any open area in the taskbar, then click Properties.

Click the Navigation tab, then check the box next to 'Go to the desktop instead of Start when I sign in'.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
dpack wrote:
or from vista from the data on the beeb

so as i see it they are offering to mend the carp(7 huge and messy,8 very huge messy and weird) stuff hat has been one of the last nails in the ms trust coffin

compared to victorian steam engines or historical styles of firearm ms has probably had it's generation and a bit of cutting edge supremacy

i wonder if there is a lost the plot version of moore's law for software developers


Windows 7 was hugely successful. 8 much less so because of it's innovative but unpopular interface. Both are excellent productivity platforms.


I absolutely detest it because it cuts down my productivity - how do you stop the cursor randomly jumping around the page when you're trying to type something?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You on a Dell laptop?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No, Acer

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I doubt it's the os. Disable the scratch pad. See if it helps.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 15 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

OK, will give it a go

Shane



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 15 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

henchard wrote:
jema wrote:

So a few mysterious actions will stop it being f*cked up. I don't know those actions... I expect to boot to something I can f8cking navigate without knowing mysteries.


So the software is 'deeply unpleasant' because the operator can't be bothered to do the following

Right-click any open area in the taskbar, then click Properties.

Click the Navigation tab, then check the box next to 'Go to the desktop instead of Start when I sign in'.

I think Jema's point is that he just wants it to work from the beginning without having to be set up to be more usable. I've used Windows 8 many times, and it drives me mental. I especially hate the fact that I have to move the cursor sort of to the right somewhere and, if I'm really, really lucky, four random symbols will pop up, one of which will open a screen that will allow me to search for the control panel. It's two clicks away in Windows 7, but requires a miracle and a whole lot of patience to find it in Windows 8. Why should I have to spend half-an-hour on Google and then play around a whole lot to make that process quicker (if it can be made quicker at all)? And that's just one thing that needs sorting out - by the time I've configured it to be easier to use I may as well have written my own operating system.

Harrumph, I say!

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