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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 15 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Falstaff wrote: |
Rob R wrote: |
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......0.87 degrees is the total supposed change over 140 years ! |
The source you cited gives 0.85 degrees, but yes. A small amount over a relatively small period of time.
I've only been around 30odd years, but even I can see it changing, and it's getting wetter, here. |
Rob - even th e programme you quote says there has been NO Warming since 2000 ! so you'd be very observant !
However, each of us remembers those "Long hot days of summer" from our childhood - and yes for a young man, whatever the age, the weather DOES seem to get wetter as we become adult !
That is to do with how the brain remembers time as we get older - that's all ! |
I'm thinking more of the frequency and severity of flooding events in the valley - how I wished the village would have been cut off so that the school bus couldn't get through, it never did. Since I left school it has been up and over several times, nothing to do with memory or perceptions. |
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Falstaff
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Graham Hyde
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Rob R
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Graham Hyde
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Rob R
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vegplot
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 21301 Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd
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Falstaff
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vegplot
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Nick
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Tavascarow
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 8407 Location: South Cornwall
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 15 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ty Gwyn wrote: |
Rob,
I watched the remainder of Climate by numbers,very interesting indeed,
But one of the calculations made by the 2nd presenter based on Kreager in the South African gold fields,when working out the value of gold in the area,just did`nt add up for me,
If that had been working out the value of coal in the under lying land with varying horizontal seams,it was feasible,
But with most metal minerals,the lodes are varying vertical with barren ground between,and only following the course of the lode could a fairly accurate value be based on the land.
What also bug`s me is,of these climate change scientists given the data they have at hand,proven in the link,and numerous links following,20 -30 years ago they were predicting a return to the Ice Age,then all of a sudden it was the Ozone layer,Green House gases,Global Warming and now Climate Change. |
The reason it is now called climate change instead of global warming is the publics inability (as has been shown here on this thread) to believe the average global temperature is rising. But there is an increase in 'freak' weather events, hence the name change. Yes twenty or thirty years ago we where talking about triggering a new ice age. That is still possible. It has nothing to do with average temperature rises directly, but the increase of fresh water mixing with the sea water. This will (as has happened in the past, proved by ice core samples) switch off the Gulf stream that keeps our climate mild. See shutdown of thermohaline circulation. So in answer to your doubts they are all true. The planet is warming. The climate is changing. & we could all still freeze our knackers off if we dont wise up.
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Tavascarow
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