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OtleyLad



Joined: 13 Jan 2007
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Location: Otley, West Yorkshire
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 5:06 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Not sure if this list is up to date,but gives a good idea of the number of turbines in and around the UK,one thing for sure,West Yorkshire is not saturated,surely they could get another 100 or so up Warfedale and Otley.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9UnySJ3tWwXAAopR3Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBydWpobjZlBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyMgR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1450940435/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fList_of_onshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_Kingdom/RK=0/RS=E_WGcrK.rcE7dADqSyMWz6rrBJ4-


I for one would welcome them - plenty of excellent sites around here - you could lose a lot in this lanscape.
The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

In our area we have 2 hydro schemes and several wind turbines. Sadly these are historical, the hydro schemes being tide mills and the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills. Restoring some of these to generate power would be step in the right direction.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Renewable energy - Scotland shows the way Reply with quote    

OtleyLad wrote:
I'm sorry but thats just plain twaddle. Is 'saturated' a measure on some technical scale or just an emotive word from a headline? Please enlighten us.


If you bothered to look at where they are and read through some planning applications you'd know. Same as your original post, it would help if you understood simple differences such as population sizes between Scotland and England and then your argument might make a bit more sense.

Put bluntly, if you want to stand any chance of convincing people to go 'green' then come up with a convincing argument.

crofter



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mistress Rose wrote:
the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills.


Do you know how old these are? Presumably when planning permission is granted for a wind turbine there are conditions attached to remove the structure at the end of its lifespan or if it falls into disrepair?

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mistress Rose wrote:
In our area we have 2 hydro schemes and several wind turbines. Sadly these are historical, the hydro schemes being tide mills and the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills. Restoring some of these to generate power would be step in the right direction.

Since the traditional style of windmill is considered by many to be an attractive feature and the modern style to be a carbuncle on the landscape, why do we not see a return to the traditional style more often?
Obviously the modern ones are taller and more efficient, but isn't a shorter less efficient tower better than no tower?

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

OtleyLad wrote:
The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.


They are going in on the Aire. Usually where there's a weir, like at Otley.

Hairyloon



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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
OtleyLad wrote:
The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.


They are going in on the Aire. Usually where there's a weir, like at Otley.

There should be plenty of scope: how much of Leeds was built on textile mills that were originally powered by water?

john of wessex



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 15 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Basically you need a 6ft drop to get a realistic amount of power from a hydro site. If you follow most rivers there is often a history of hydro power wherever you can get that much drop

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34031
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Not sure if this list is up to date,but gives a good idea of the number of turbines in and around the UK,one thing for sure,West Yorkshire is not saturated,surely they could get another 100 or so up Warfedale and Otley.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9UnySJ3tWwXAAopR3Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBydWpobjZlBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyMgR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1450940435/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fList_of_onshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_Kingdom/RK=0/RS=E_WGcrK.rcE7dADqSyMWz6rrBJ4-


Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15296
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Or if not, then at least follow the link to the site and post the URL from the header: posting straight from the search engine adds a shedload of clutter.

On a lighter note: Merry Christmas.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

All the windmills are of the traditional type. The one above us, on Windmill Hill strangely, was restored as a house some years ago and they put non working sails on it so it looked as it used to. Nobody has suggested taking them down and in fact there would be complaints if they did.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4270
Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Ty Gwyn wrote:
Not sure if this list is up to date,but gives a good idea of the number of turbines in and around the UK,one thing for sure,West Yorkshire is not saturated,surely they could get another 100 or so up Warfedale and Otley.

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9UnySJ3tWwXAAopR3Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBydWpobjZlBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyMgR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1450940435/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fList_of_onshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_Kingdom/RK=0/RS=E_WGcrK.rcE7dADqSyMWz6rrBJ4-


Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.



The last time you mentioned this,i did ask how i could copy and paste without this happening,no one answered to tell me how.

I don`t honestly know how to shorten these links.

Merry Christmas to you.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4270
Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hairyloon wrote:
Nick wrote:
Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Or if not, then at least follow the link to the site and post the URL from the header: posting straight from the search engine adds a shedload of clutter.

On a lighter note: Merry Christmas.


Thank you,i will try that.

Merry Christmas.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34031
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

http://forum.downsizer.net/about25325.html

And to you.

Yell if it doesn't make sense.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15296
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 15 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Yell if it doesn't make sense.

Christmas? No, it doesn't make a lot of sense...

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