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Manure as fuel and manure ash as fertilizer

 
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Mutton



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 16 1:51 pm    Post subject: Manure as fuel and manure ash as fertilizer  Reply with quote    

Thought I'd put this here, though could go in renewable discussion area - it is about turning manure into fuel, then a field trial of the manure ash as fertilizer.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/your-manure-pile/

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 16 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

interesting, i had not heard about the ash as fertilizer but quite a few places use manure as fuel due to lack of trees,availability,cost etc .

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 16 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I was amazed first time I went to Pakistan to see cow pats being dried for use as fuel. I can't imagine many people do it nowadays

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 16 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bison chips fueled the cooking fires of all the pioneers that settled the American west

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 16 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This is where our common language fails us.

Pats are not chips

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 16 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hey this is fun: http://plainshumanities.unl.edu/encyclopedia/doc/egp.ii.007

I could call them cow pies instead if you prefer.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 16 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Not this side of the pond old chap. A Cow Pie is what Desperate Dan eats:


Slim



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 16 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You mean meadow muffins?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I made about 300 briquettes (12"x 6" x 4") a few years back out of compressed horse poo.
My observations were they took a hell of a long time to dry out , burnt OK on an already lit wood burner, generated a lot of ash and were generally way more work than wood .
Best made when the poo was still steaming .
I would not bother again unless I was having a lot of trouble finding free wood.

Mutton



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chips - my default thought on chips is deep fried fingers of potato. Followed by wood chips, or chips in china.

So what do you call the sort of chips that are usually served with fish?

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Mutton wrote:
Chips - my default thought on chips is deep fried fingers of potato. Followed by wood chips, or chips in china.

So what do you call the sort of chips that are usually served with fish?


Typically, fried sections of potatoes served with hamburgers are french fries, however they will be called chips when ordered as a meal of "fish'n'chips". Chips are typically potato chips (crisps to you folk) or corn tortilla chips (what do you call these, maize flatbread crisps?)

Chips as manure is really only ever referencing "buffalo chips" (from bison, not buffalo) and that's usually only in reference to pioneers of the American west (though I believe the natives used it as fuel first)

Advantage of that prairie climate is that no one was mixing it up and shoving it into molds and drying it. They just picked it up already dry and burnt it as is.

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bungo wrote:
I made about 300 briquettes (12"x 6" x 4") a few years back out of compressed horse poo.
My observations were they took a hell of a long time to dry out , burnt OK on an already lit wood burner, generated a lot of ash and were generally way more work than wood .
Best made when the poo was still steaming .
I would not bother again unless I was having a lot of trouble finding free wood.


I would think that it would work better if it wasn't compressed. Leave a little air space, y'know? Might need more frequent re-loading of the fire though

Mutton



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Slim wrote:
Chips are typically potato chips (crisps to you folk) or corn tortilla chips (what do you call these, maize flatbread crisps?)
.


Funnily enough, we call them tortilla chips. Fairly recent import rather than home grown recipe, so name imported with the product.

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 16 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
I was amazed first time I went to Pakistan to see cow pats being dried for use as fuel. I can't imagine many people do it nowadays


Less than five years ago it was certainly commonplace in the bits of the Punjab we went too.

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