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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 16 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: grrrr microsoft rant  Reply with quote    

vegplot wrote:
dpack wrote:
i am trying to get my lappy going again after a few months "rest" and me using linux for all the usual stuff.
the contrast is considerable.

with the lappy so far:

2 starts and a restart to get it to talk to the wifi again(new router so i cant entirely blame bill for that)

one restart:
to get it to update avast which it is doing at the mo

im now trying to stop it doing a back up while i update the os,it's security patches defender etc (ah ha sorted for the mo) and to stop it trying to update the ms stuff til avast is sorted

once avast has updated i will need to patch and update the os and restart it again

then i might be able to access a couple my data bases,my colleagues data base and a couple of passwords i need to transfer a load of data to where i can use it a small bit at a time

compared to linux which is fast ,hardware requirement light,secure,easy to update when i want to rather than every time i turn the machine on,etc etc a microsoft os and all the bits it requires to be safely usable is messy.

spose at least it hasnít updated itself to 10 and trashed the machines usability like just happened to sil

hey ho a restart to install the avast updates now. i wonder what will be next in line ,recon it might actually be the microsoft stuff
no it is now trying to connect to yahoo/chrome which i never use and skype dropbox which i do but prefer to activate when i want them

avast is now up and running for rtp but suggests a scan which seems sensible as the thing seems to have called everything it knows to try to update itself .

run smart scan.

a bit over an hour so far to get to starting a scan ,to be continued.....

Why is this a Microsoft rant? The problem, from your description, appears to be an Avast issue.

As for secure please see link I posted is response to Jema's post.

Haters gonna hate.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 16 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

an effective linux malware could make one very rich or crash the web (or sections of it) however the main problems for malware authors are built into the structure of linux,the issue of host availability for creating a bot net or whatever and that many attacks can easily be blocked by built in browser features or reliable add ons built to counter specific known problems (many of which are vulnerabilities in the thing one is using rather than the os of your machine or browser such as phishing attacks via facebook pages which can be blocked with a background add on).
ad and script blockers prevent many unpleasant things as a by bonus of their original purpose.

there is no such thing as 100% security and if one is running a bank,the dod email system or whatever security coding and interface controls specific to your system is a very good idea .
for a desk top domestic/sme system some basic add ons , using the firewalls as appropriate,script blocking and common sense regarding file transfers,running dubious stuff via wine and so forth seems in practice to have been very secure.

basic preparation and care should protect against everything apart from a very professional targeted attack and even those can be made very difficult.

many of the vulnerabilities of linux systems are spotted fairly quickly by white hat linux folk and the updates address these before the general malware community exploit them.

to put it simply linux is a crocodile compared to microsoft being an immune suppressed morbidly obese rat


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 16 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:
Mint seems to get good reviews.

I use Mint. No real complaints.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 16 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

mint is fine.

im into file transfers at the mo which seems to be working with the odd extra shove and poke to get them tidyish so as they will go from lappy desktop to the linux dropbox .

tis a good opertunity to cull and replace corrupted ones and once they are on linux desktop sort them into a more sensible structure rather than the mess they are in .think bull in a library and that describes my filing system .

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