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Lorrainelovesplants



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Location: Cornwall
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 16 7:36 am    Post subject: Big shed sale  Reply with quote    

pipe bender 50.


2 arc welders - old but work perfectly - please ask me for details - one is 30 (blue one) the other 40. With all leads & electrode holders.






And an Axminster swivel head metal cutting bandsaw 160. Hardly used since new.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33679
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Would either welder come with a half hour idiots guide on how to stick two bits of metal together? I've twenty jobs that need a quick gluing but I wouldn't know where to start.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 32957
Location: yes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

any job in mild steel that is between 3 and 20 mm depth of weld is pretty easy with a stick welder

half an hour will provide the basics and a couple of hours practice on scrap when you get it home will provide the dexterity.

specialist stuff like cast iron and pressure vessels is a whole world of learning but the usual blacksmithing and coachwork stuff is well within the scope of the average diy skills.

mask and gloves are essential as uv burns sting apart from those all the extras you need are a couple of files, an angle grinder and a welders pick to bash off slag.

as to dexterity if you can write your name in icing you can stick weld.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 14813
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It is not too hard to weld securely, but it is fairly hard to weld neatly.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It's the idiots guide I was after. What to set any dials to. What to clamp to what. What cable goes where.

Not about to start repairing the church bells or the local submarine. I just have some gates, implements and such that want gluing.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

3 cables with the welder,one is electrode holder,one is mains electric plug and the other is the earth cable,attach earth to the piece your welding,make sure it has a good earth,clean with grinder first.

Regarding dials,that was the hardest part I found when first tried to weld,depending on what your welding,thickness of metal,thin metal with welder turned to high will burn through,thick metal with welder not turned up enough gives a weak weld.

Practice on scrap you`ll soon get the hang of it.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33679
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's the plan, once I've had the first five minutes under guidance. I can't damage the stuff I want to weld much. It's pretty shagged anyway.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33679
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 16 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hairyloon wrote:
Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.


Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

onemanband



Joined: 26 Dec 2010
Posts: 1473
Location: NCA90
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You'll also need a safe electric supply.
If one kettle gave you grief, imagine what several kettles could do.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 14813
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.


Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

I don't know if the magic ones actually protect you any better, but they do make it a damn site easier to see.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33679
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

onemanband wrote:
You'll also need a safe electric supply.
If one kettle gave you grief, imagine what several kettles could do.



Hush. The kettle got corroded and shorted. The rcd tripped doing its job. New kettle, no problems.

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 33679
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hairyloon wrote:
Nick wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.


Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

I don't know if the magic ones actually protect you any better, but they do make it a damn site easier to see.


I'm thinking they make it much easier to see during the bright and dark phases and less likely to forget to put it on.

Lorrainelovesplants



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6473
Location: Cornwall
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sorry guys for not picking up this...We lost the sale on our house and its been stressy.

Welders are still available - one hours free tuition with any welder.

Any questions?

The metal cutting bandsaw is sold.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 14813
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 16 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Pipe bender?

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