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1000seeds



Joined: 21 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:15 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Better than Jammie dodgers? Not possible


there are so many foods i like, vegan food doesn't necessarily mean healthy in that respect. Junk food can be vegan.

yummy!

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

1000seeds wrote:
They are, it states planned to add milk. The Vegan Society are upset


"A Burton Biscuits spokesperson said: ‘For the new reformulated recipe of Jammie Dodgers we have communicated that there is now an additional allergen of milk within the product. This is due to the addition of whey in the recipe, which gives a more rounded flavour"

They changed the recipe 18 months ago.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm not sure segregating veggie stuff is useful? Recipes are recipes. Food is food. If it not clear on the title, check the ingredients...

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 17 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I don't care very much, but I don't think a separate vegan section has any merit.
If you do go that way, do you want to save time and trouble and ban me from it straight away?

jema
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 17 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm not veggie or vegan, but recognize that whatever I think of those views, a lot of people see it as a core part of "sustainable and ethical" so I'm strongly in favour of giving that strand of thinking its own space.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

jema wrote:
I'm not veggie or vegan, but recognize that whatever I think of those views, a lot of people see it as a core part of "sustainable and ethical"...

Well they are wrong.
It may contribute, but it is a long way from being core...

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

What is wrong with a thread within Recipes? We have a long one in the Grow your own section so no reason why it can't go the same way.

jema
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Because whether you agree with it or not, vegan/veggie etc is not about recipes, it is a considered viewpoint.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i have no strong feelings either way regarding a separate vegan/veggie thread but fail to see why any of the relevant aspects do not fit into existing topic categories.

1000seeds



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hi all, and thanks for the correction about jammie dodgers nick.

My 'title' as such said "food related". I definitely want to keep away from the politiical and ethical side of it - there are many other avenues on this forum to discuss it. This would merely be food you can eat, as a vegetarian or vegan. There may be the odd comment, is lettuce vegan or vegetarian; that's fine!

I think everyone knows what is meant, someone mentioned cheese, for example. I think a section on these, or even sub topics within the main one is worthwhile. Especially for someone like me just beginning. Not just the vegan processed foods i mentioned we are already unknowingly in many cases, eating; but making from scratch, using alternatives. It doesn't detract from meat or dairy eaters. It's an addition. Stand alone or sub topic.


jema
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Downsizer is all about tolerance and so whilst I would never want a ban on discussing the ethics, I think the mods would have to be very strict about the militant "meat is murder" brigade.
I have good friends who probably feel that way, but they don't feel the need to preach it. The net has the effect on a lot of people of letting them act in ways they never would face to face and a vegan forum would be a hot spot for this.

Hairyloon



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 17 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well if we are going there, can one of the vegans look at the care nurtured by some of the chicken keepers here and explain to me how it is exploitation?

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 17 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Honey would be another case, but if we don't want to go into the ethical side of it, I think a thread in recipes still might be better.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 17 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Genuine question here but why is it considered murder to kill an animal for food yet a living plant is okay to kill and eat? After all it's still a living thing.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 17 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sgt.colon wrote:
Genuine question here but why is it considered murder to kill an animal for food yet a living plant is okay to kill and eat? After all it's still a living thing.


Lack of an easily observable pain response.

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