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NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 17 8:13 pm    Post subject: Adventures in grafting  Reply with quote    

I've been noodling about in the orchard / forest garden nearby, and come away with some clippings to try grafting. I want a branch of a different variety on each of my trees to ensure pollination. The fact that nothing in the orchard was labelled makes this more interesting!

I went for bud grafts, and it seemed very simple so now I'm waiting to see what I've done wrong...

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 17 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Is this a good time of year for it?

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 17 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I believe for bud grafting you typically want to do it in the early spring when the bark slips easily.

But you never know what will take, so perhaps there will be a lucky one or two! And a good practice run for next spring if they don't take.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 17 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Ye olde RHS book said "midsummer" so I'm not stupidly far off, especially given weather.

I did daub the spare stems with rooting powder to try cuttings too

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 17 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I haven't really done any myself, except a citrus in a class once, and that was early spring, but looking it up now I see that you're dead on and I was wrong

Keep us posted on the progress!

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 17 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The buds are all sprouting, and I'm trying to decide whether this is from any sort of stored energy or whether they have taken so quickly??

Slim



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 17 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

They should have some stored energy, but all of the cells for the new leaves have already been made (in preparation for next year). The cells sort of get "inflated" with water pressure, which wouldn't happen if there wasn't some flow through from the stem, so congrats! Sounds like early indications of probable success!

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 17 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It surely can't be that simple!

Also I'll end up with far too many if they ALL take

Fingers crossed though. When do you think I'll know, and when can I take off the supporting tape/wrap?

Slim



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 17 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you used something like parafilm (my preference) than you can just leave it on for the plant to force off as it grows.

Notice that I said an early indicator, not a proof positive! I'd leave them unmolested for at least a couple weeks before poking about to see which have really made it. And I wouldn't worry about having too many until you know which have made it through winter!

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 17 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Slim wrote:
If you used something like parafilm (my preference) than you can just leave it on for the plant to force off as it grows.

Is parafilm parafilm or are there different types?

Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 17 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It looks like it gets marketed differently than the laboratory stuff, but I don't know that it is any different.....

http://www.fruitmentor.com/grafting-tape-parafilm-vinyl-tape

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 17 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

(I may have used sticky tape)


Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Some sticky tapes are quite flexible and will probably do the job all right. It is the ones that won't stretch and form that might not work. Sounds as if yours has worked at present anyway.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
(I may have used sticky tape)


Ordinary stick tape will probably get water behind it and fall off. As long as that happens after the graft has taken, it should be fine.

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 17 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

When y'all say sticky tape, is that the same thing that we would call Scotch tape, or "invisible tape"?

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