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yummersetter



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 11:05 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Brogdale and the RHS used to do a visual iD but didn't know what our rarities were. My grandfather loved collecting roses and apples so they could be virtually unique to our local orchards.

I regularly get emails offering DNA testing for apple identification, and when it gets cheaper might submit some samples; now I know them well and know their qualities and shortfalls, the name doesn't seem so important . . I just pick the Good-for-Baked-Apple-in-September or The-One-that-Tastes-of-Strawberries-when-Ripe-Enough-but-Not-Too-Much fruits.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

the little ginger russet is ace etc etc etc

that green one that is too tart unless it is picked late makes ace pies in december etc etc .

i can see quite a few unknowns getting cloned over the next few years.

the plums are even trickier than the apples to find the names of.

yummersetter



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

At least in Olden Days, most top fruit trees were bought from local growers (or Woolworths). In our case, we know Grandfather was loyal to the nearby Scotts Nurseries and we have their catalogues and Scotts Orchardist to help with identification.
Who would ever be able to track this decade's purchases through the dozens of online website suppliers?

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Quite a few sites we have were part of hospital self sufficiency which were maintained until meds replaced activities in the 1960's ( or patients were no longer used as field slaves depending on points of view and local conditions ).

most of these hospital orchards are early 20th cent plantings selected by folk with victorian experience so it does narrow it down a bit although i recon we have only 30% named so far

some of the ecclesiastical ones have stuff that could have been repeat grafted since the OT was written

yummersetter



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

In that case, its likely the varieties would be from Robert Hogg's 'The Fruit Manual: A Guide to the Fruits and Fruit Trees of Great Britain' the BIble of Victorian fruit growing plus newer introductions from Laxton, Thomas Rivers

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

thanks that could be very handy info.

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