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frewen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 1:44 pm    Post subject: sneaky hedge planting  Reply with quote    

I was wondering, is it very wrong to try and encourage a few sparse areas in a local hedge to fill in with something native?

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Go for it

frewen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Do you have any good suggestions?

Jam Lady



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

An interesting technique I read in an old book - put up some posts and wires. Birds will perch, poop, and the seeds will (eventually, grow into a hedge. Native or not, depends on what they are eating / pooping.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hazel is my favourite, but holly seems to be as tough as old boots. I suppose looking at what’s growing well in the vicinity would be a good plan, as that’s what’s likely to do well.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

service tree is rather nice as are other wild style fruits

if you have bullace stones ,service hips or whatever in a pocket a quick poke with a stick can plant a few gaps

at this time of year quite a few things will take from sticking a greenwood cutting in the mud

Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I had to google service tree, as I was pretty certain that service berry (Amelanchier) is a new world species, but now I'm wondering if you use it all over there? Would seem to be a good choice, though maybe not for this thread suggesting native species....

frewen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Service tree - likes clay - big tick

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

afaik it has been here since the 17th C so it could be considered more native than some.

i wonder what was native when we had rhinos in london? baobab seems plausible but it isn't really suitable for a hedge gap

in geo/ biological time scales the current UK flora are all recent introductions( or reintroductions ) cos a mile or so of ice isn’t ideal for growing things under or on .

Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A similar talking point exists for black locust here.

Is it an invasive if we know it was here before the last ice age?

Nicky Colour it green



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You can take cuttings of local native trees and just poke them in the mud - alder and willow will take like this.

Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Also, just for clarity for anyone wondering, what you call service tree is Sorbus, which we call mountain ash (at least the species that grows in the mountains near me)

What we call service berry is Amerlanchier, AKA saskatoon

happytechie



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Blackthorn, willow and hazel will all root from green sticks pushed in the ground. Holly will too but it's a bit more fussy. All of these would do a great job filling out a hedge.
If you have plenty of green sticks let me know. I'll have a few hundred metres of hedge to plant this year!

frewen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Green sticks - got it

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This also applies to blackcurrants. Not exactly native, but very tasty and good for birds.

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