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tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 10:15 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
have you spoken to anyone who knows about them, either from a forestry point of view or shooting?


Trying to find someone to talk to

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Just managed to speak to the guy who heads the Eastern England deer group for the FC. He says that rabbit proof fencing may do the job but in any case I need to find a local stalker who'll be able to nip in whenever he's passing, he's going to get some numbers for me and is hopefully going to be seeing me on the 3rd January.

So some progress...

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

But I take it you can never eat them?

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jonnyboy wrote:
But I take it you can never eat them?


I'll seriously look into that but as far as I know you have to say a little prayer as you pul the trigger....wonder if there are any muslim deerstalkers in Essex?

Wish I could flippin' shoot now...

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

lion smell used in the gardens of blackheath surrey repelled deer .dog also works . high contrast / shiny things might help .

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Jonnyboy wrote:
But I take it you can never eat them?


I'll seriously look into that but as far as I know you have to say a little prayer as you pul the trigger....wonder if there are any muslim deerstalkers in Essex?

Wish I could flippin' shoot now...


Sounds like a fantastic opportunity, you have the acreage and the reason for being approved for a fac. Joining a local club should help you get training and assist the application.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

very good idea

sean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 05 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'd go for it in your position. They're a destructive and non-indigenous species, and you'd be able to eat them. It's a win-win situation. Unless you're a muntjac.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Had a great day with a man from the Forestry Commission's Deer Initiative yesterday. We walked round the whole place inspecting tracks, looking at turds, smelling, that sort of thing. Really enjoyed it.

Anyway the outcome is that we have a single muntac living on site, he couldn't find any evidence of others coming into this one's territory, he says the biggest problem (apart from the rabbits) is going to be the hares, apparently we've got a huge population.

He reckons the badgers would go through the stock proof fencing anyway so he reckons 1m tree guards should be all I need.

Where's the relief emoticon? (No NL and B, not that kind of relief...)

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
he says the biggest problem (apart from the rabbits) is going to be the hares, apparently we've got a huge population.


You need a hare net.

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm glad that you're relieved.

I could make a joke about sniffing turds but as we actively clean and polish 1,000,000s of things each day I feel I shouldn't.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hare net might not be such a joke you know. Long netting is an old fashioned way of controlling hare numbers, and providing some excellent food for the table too.

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

But then he'd need a long dog, and Tahir doesn't like dogs.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
But then he'd need a long dog, and Tahir doesn't like dogs.


Well, I hope he likes hares then

There are other ways of controlling hares, of course. I'd rather eat hare than deer, a hare overpopulation would certainly get me looking for a way of getting them into the pot.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Remember a while ago when we had the thing about eating hare some places in the UK are finding them rare, I take it that's not the case in Essex then (ie we're not encouraging Tahir to singlehandedly wipe out a wildlife paradise in the name of a tasty stew?)

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