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Bodger



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 10 9:51 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

He's a potato man.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rob R wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
With what - please don't say a catapult.


A car?


my weapon of choice combined with a walk or bike ride to recover the fallen

boisdevie1



Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Location: Lancaster
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Air rifle - chest or head shot

farmershort



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Location: Hampshire
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

large rock - best thrown from cliff above a narrow gorge. I believe acme sell a range of them.

Wood child



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Firstly, how do you get to brownbears website, and secondly, I'm using an air rifle. What would you describe as 'public land'?

alison
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Wood child wrote:
Firstly, how do you get to brownbears website,


press the www button under his post.

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Wood child wrote:
I'm using an air rifle. What would you describe as 'public land'?


Anywhere you can legaly go without the permission of the land owner or causing trespass is how i would put it, woods, forests, national parks, brown field sites , local parks ect ect.
I would never use an air rifle on land that i didnt own or have to ask permission to be on, same goes for snares and traps.
all well and good setting a snare on the bit of land you walk your dog but how would you feel if you dog got caught in the snare someone else had left.......

farmershort



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Wood child wrote:
Firstly, how do you get to brownbears website, and secondly, I'm using an air rifle. What would you describe as 'public land'?


seriously - jacksshed - it's a more... erm... "shooty/hunty" forum - might be more up your street

I call public land, anything not owned by a private individual landowner or farmer. So it rules out farms, houses, and gardens.

obviously don't shoot where there's people near by. But I tend to say that forests, moors, common land, council amenity land, railway embankments (not mainlines) - things like that - all fair game, if you're willing to take the risk.

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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

farmershort wrote:
Wood child wrote:
Firstly, how do you get to brownbears website, and secondly, I'm using an air rifle. What would you describe as 'public land'?


seriously - jacksshed - it's a more... erm... "shooty/hunty" forum - might be more up your street

I call public land, anything not owned by a private individual landowner or farmer. So it rules out farms, houses, and gardens.

obviously don't shoot where there's people near by. But I tend to say that forests, moors, common land, council amenity land, railway embankments (not mainlines) - things like that - all fair game, if you're willing to take the risk.


And what's the risk of using an air rifle illegally on land where you don't have permission? A few years in prison and the possibility of seriously harming someone? I'm not entirely sure you can shoot safely if you're sneaking around worrying about being caught.

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farmershort



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Treacodactyl wrote:
farmershort wrote:
Wood child wrote:
Firstly, how do you get to brownbears website, and secondly, I'm using an air rifle. What would you describe as 'public land'?


seriously - jacksshed - it's a more... erm... "shooty/hunty" forum - might be more up your street

I call public land, anything not owned by a private individual landowner or farmer. So it rules out farms, houses, and gardens.

obviously don't shoot where there's people near by. But I tend to say that forests, moors, common land, council amenity land, railway embankments (not mainlines) - things like that - all fair game, if you're willing to take the risk.


And what's the risk of using an air rifle illegally on land where you don't have permission? A few years in prison and the possibility of seriously harming someone? I'm not entirely sure you can shoot safely if you're sneaking around worrying about being caught.


The risks depend on where you are. It's an individual judgement, and not really something that anyone can go into on here for legal reasons. Shooting an air rifle in the middle of a scottish mountain wood is going to be a lot less risky than shooting at pigeons in your local park. Opposite ends of a big grey thing there... clearly it's not grey in the eyes of the law.

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Afraid not, it's a serious criminal offence, especially with the level of concern about air rifle crime, and liable to attract significant penalties. It gives a bad name to legitimate shooters, and you will get no sympathy or support when you are caught. Given the penalties, it's far better to practice your shooting at a club, and buy rabbits and pheasants at the butcher. They're a lot less than the fine or the loss of earnings when incarcerated.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 10 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The law makes no distinction between air rifles and more powerful guns for which you need a licence – they are all classed as firearms.

mochyn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 10 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I wouldn't class common land as public. It's used by commoners (people with rights to, for exampe, graze stock on it) although it's OK to walk over it.

jamanda
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 10 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

mochyn wrote:
I wouldn't class common land as public. It's used by commoners (people with rights to, for exampe, graze stock on it) although it's OK to walk over it.


I am a trustee for a tranche of common land. No-one grazes it, though we could give people permission to do so. The fact that it is unfenced makes it impractical so no-one wants to.
Equally there is a bylaw stating no one is allowed to shoot on it which we are required to see is upheld.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 10 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

lots of good tips here on getting shooting permissions etc over the years

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