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Stacey



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 10:24 am    Post subject: How do you show a gander who's boss?  Reply with quote    

The geese we bought that were listed as a 'two' were a pair and we didn't find out till after we'd bought them. Anyway, the gander has gone the way a lot of ganders do and is right arsey with anyone but himself. I've just seen my neighbour give the gander a right telling off and I'm supposing he went for him. If he carries on like that I have no problem 'disappearing' him but himself is totally besotted with this gander. Is there anything that you can do to let them know you're boss? Arsey ganders frighten the bejesus out of me so not showing fear isn't an option

SandraR



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You need confidence but with my younger ones - the teenage boys. I hold them by the neck and press them to the ground my hands on their backs just for a few minutes. When you let go they walk off shaking their feathers hoping no one has seen.

Another way is to pick them up and carry them around under your arm for a while.

Failing that carry a dustbin lid to sheild yourself from them and stand your ground, with most ganders it is pure bravdo.

The more people who care for them feed etc. the less protective they become.

He will quiten down after the breeding season.

Stacey



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks for that, Sandra. Will give it a go.

misty07



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if i had the room id love a gander like that people have status dogs id have a gander lol just take a piece of plastic pipe with you and keep him arms length and it should ease off after the season then pick up again next season

pookie



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This is the way we do it.....


If he starts hissing and neck stretching towards you, raise your arms out to the sides (mimicking wings) step one pace towards him lowering your head and neck stretching out in front directly at him.
Keep your nerve. You are challenging him and he 'should' back off.
It generally is bluff.

If he looks as though he isn't going to back down, be ready to grab him by the neck so that you can keep control of where his beak may try to grab you. This knocks him off balance, and at the same time grab his body under your other arm to secure his wings from flapping.

Ooh just found this....more or less says what I was trying to explain

http://www.ehow.com/how_2300137_properly-handle-train-geese.html

And as the others say, he should calm down again after the breeding season is over, just make sure you and family are 'top' of the pecking order.

Lorrainelovesplants



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ha, ha, ha.........

I'd love to watch you bluff our gander!!

Attacks people, dog, cars.

have tried the grab the neck thing...(imagine grabbing a venomous snake)....dosnt work with mine....


He was fine until the end of Nov....will be done for the freezer...bad git!

All fertile eggs that hatch will also be done in Dec to prevent a follow up by sons of gander.

Geese, Im sorry to say, were a mistake for us.

pookie



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

This was a general 'how do you show gander who's boss' question so that is how I answered it. Stacey's gander sounds like a perfectly normal male during the breeding season, they do protect their flock.
Though I would agree if you get a particularly nasty one, who does not show signs of backing down then the pot is the best place for him. If your gander is too nasty, it doesn't mean that they all are, and maybe if you just replace him with a new chap you may find that having geese is not a mistake and you will come to enjoy them.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sage and onion

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Sage and onion? I was thinking plum and nut stuffing with all the trimmings.....

Actuall, i know what you mean when you say i probably have a particularly nasty one....a lady was here yesterday and she's had 2 ganders (and other geese) for a number of years and dosnt have this...so Ive just been 'lucky' with the evil one ive got.....

Jamanda
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Plum and nut stuffing sounds good. Do you have a recipe?

I reallllllly don't like geese. We rescued one that had injured itself flying into overhead cables when I was child and it was a horrid savage thing when it got back on its feet.!

T.G



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

aww my geese are lovely, they hiss and bluff but don't chase anyone they honk and make a racket when they see me and come to investigate what I'mdoing and does it involve food for them.

I have a couple of ganders and an immature gander as well as some females. They all get along in one flock, well they will till the gander and goose pair up for sale are sold.

matt_hooks



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Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jamanda wrote:
Plum and nut stuffing sounds good. Do you have a recipe?

I reallllllly don't like geese. We rescued one that had injured itself flying into overhead cables when I was child and it was a horrid savage thing when it got back on its feet.!


A rescued bird is a wild animal. No matter how cushy a life you give it it only sees you as a threat, and will be defensive. Unless a wild animal has strong human contact in the first few days of life, it'll never be tame. It was probably terrified, and doing what nature has most frightened animals doing, fighting like billyo!

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 11 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i can see things from a goose view but from my side nasty hissy fatty things best seen with binoculars doing goose things at a long distance

at least i like the taste of sheep

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 11 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Jamanda - the plum and nut stuffing I will make up as i go along....
probably a handful of chopped plums or even dried prunes or chopped morello cherries...with a normal stuffing mix, and at the end some chopped almonds, squirt of a real orange to bind it together, (perhaps with a small amount of sloe vodka) and voila....

Sounds as if its got nice stuff in it...might be horrible....

dpack...have to agree...and probably after this year will go back to having a couple of lambs to keep the grass in check...much easier to manage.

Jamanda
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 11 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

matt_hooks wrote:
Jamanda wrote:
Plum and nut stuffing sounds good. Do you have a recipe?

I reallllllly don't like geese. We rescued one that had injured itself flying into overhead cables when I was child and it was a horrid savage thing when it got back on its feet.!


A rescued bird is a wild animal. No matter how cushy a life you give it it only sees you as a threat, and will be defensive. Unless a wild animal has strong human contact in the first few days of life, it'll never be tame. It was probably terrified, and doing what nature has most frightened animals doing, fighting like billyo!


It was a white domestic goose. it went off to live with a friend of my parent's flock where it seemed to settle in well enough.

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