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Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:16 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Have a chat to Uncle Ken Livingstone, he hates 'em as well.

footprints



Joined: 26 May 2005
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Location: North Wales
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 8:57 pm    Post subject: Pidgeons Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.


Fuelled air burst? I love it. While were on a roll, lets nuke the moles on my garden, and napalm the slugs in the tunnel green house.

Mini gun for the neighbours cats?

ButteryHOLsomeness



Joined: 03 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Pidgeons Reply with quote    

footprints wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.


Fuelled air burst? I love it. While were on a roll, lets nuke the moles on my garden, and napalm the slugs in the tunnel green house.

Mini gun for the neighbours cats?


naaahhhhh flamethrower

then it's kitty bbq that night get rid of one problem and solve your 'what's for dinner tonight' problem as well


(((ok don't yell at me, i'd NEVER do that to an animal, just my sick and twisted sense of humour)))

dougal



Joined: 15 Jan 2005
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Location: South Kent
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Except possibly to Hunter S Thompson... who would have greatly appreciated such a response to the dread threat of the urban pigeon.
Mind you, he wouldn't have asked before he started shooting...

birdhater
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

thanks for your responses....our initial idea was to install a bird scaring device but the problem is the tree is very tall (>60ft) and not in our garden (the branches overhang). It might be possible to get a ladder this tall and install this but will be difficult.....this is probably the best solution in the long run but this is a last resort....

Assuming we are using a bb gun and shooting directly up (so any shot will go up and come back down in our garden) and just to scare (by hitting leaves rather than birds) then is this still illegal?

We have also seen some inaudible bird scaring devices (i.e. produces scarey noises only heard by birds)....has anybody any experience of these?

failing this....does anybody know Ken Livingstones home number and whether he would object to scaring birds with bb guns/fuel air explosions?

Rikki



Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have similar problems with both pigeons and tree rats (squirrels) - in that they out compete the other fauna. My bird feeder has a bell of thick wire mesh over the central cylindrical feeder. The holes in the mesh are too small for pigeons and squirrels to get in to the seed.

The problem with shooting is that there are so many pigeons in London that any you kill will just get replaced.

JB



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

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judith



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Are you on sufficiently good terms with your neighbour for there to be a chance that you could have the offending overhanging branches removed?
Then the pigeons would only be able to crap on his side

ButteryHOLsomeness



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

ROFL brilliant judith, and very practical!

dougal



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Judith wrote:
Are you on sufficiently good terms with your neighbour for there to be a chance that you could have the offending overhanging branches removed?
Then the pigeons would only be able to crap on his side

Assuming no tree protection orders or similar, my understanding is that one is legally entitled to cut off any branches overhanging your property - but you should be returning all the offcut branches to your neighbour, they belong to him, so taking them without permission would be theft.
But if that's what you plan to do, a quiet word in advance would do no harm to neighbourly relations...

crackapple



Joined: 19 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Get a dummy bird of prey, something like an owl, and display it in a prominant position. This will deter the skyrats but the downside is it will also scare the nice birds.

judyofthewoods



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Location: Pembrokeshire
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Install Ken Livingston in the back yard.

Can you hang your laundry on the other side of the garden? Death sentence seems rather severe for droppings. Not sure I'd want to eat city pidgeon, god knows what they pick up! Not sure if this is true, but I've heard that the pidgeons with deformed feet are poison survivors (presumably the offspring of the poisoned bird), so you could possibly be ingesting it, as it would imply that there are birds about which have eaten poison and survived.

Lloyd



Joined: 24 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 05 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The best option must surely be to prevent occurrence rather than deal with the result of the occurrence.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 05 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

my cat liked them for dinner , aledgedly .i sometimes helped , birds are ok to eat .beware parasites , peel and boil for 30 mins .

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