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lottie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 4:12 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

troyannick wrote:


My two pet hates about that are when they say you 'Save ' money by buying something, you havent saved F###All youve paid the price they are asking.

As far as I'm concerned if I buy a jar of coffee a week and the first week of one month that brand is a BOGOF so I buy 4 jars to last me a month for the price I'd normally pay for2 jars then I have saved about 12 on my grocery bill that month.

troyannick



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

lottie wrote:
troyannick wrote:


My two pet hates about that are when they say you 'Save ' money by buying something, you havent saved F###All youve paid the price they are asking.

As far as I'm concerned if I buy a jar of coffee a week and the first week of one month that brand is a BOGOF so I buy 4 jars to last me a month for the price I'd normally pay for2 jars then I have saved about 12 on my grocery bill that month.


Depends which angle you look at it from, if one jar is normally 6 quid and they give you two jars then you have paid 3 quid for each jar. Theres no 'free'. If you get one jar and they dont charge you that would be free.
They may be forfeiting their profit margin in the hope that you will switch to that brand, not sure who takes the hit there is it the shop or the supplier of that item.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

OtleyLad wrote:
I'm happy to pay more (and eat less of it) for something produced by someone who has a decent wage and produced in a sustainable way - but I know i'm in the minority (even my partner thinks i'm daft with money).


You better not buy anything from me then, or if you do then double the price.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    



well put

lottie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

troyannick wrote:
lottie wrote:
troyannick wrote:


My two pet hates about that are when they say you 'Save ' money by buying something, you havent saved F###All youve paid the price they are asking.

As far as I'm concerned if I buy a jar of coffee a week and the first week of one month that brand is a BOGOF so I buy 4 jars to last me a month for the price I'd normally pay for2 jars then I have saved about 12 on my grocery bill that month.


Depends which angle you look at it from, if one jar is normally 6 quid and they give you two jars then you have paid 3 quid for each jar. Theres no 'free'. If you get one jar and they dont charge you that would be free.
They may be forfeiting their profit margin in the hope that you will switch to that brand, not sure who takes the hit there is it the shop or the supplier of that item.

I said I'd saved money which was in response to your original statement where you claimed[see above] no one would have saved money with a supermarket offer . No one thinks BOGOFS are free it's just how they pitch it, but if you use them for things you normally buy and the preoffer price wasn't artificially inflated then there are savings to be made. Why they make the offer is irrelevant to the statement you made that there was no saving to the customer when in my case and the way I use the offers by bulk buying there clearly is.

troyannick



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Gotcha lottie its the word 'save' that gets me, 'offer' I can get, 'free' I dont get, 'reduced price' I get

The notion that they are doing these things to 'save' you money is what annoys me, does that make more sense.

You have definately got the coffee cheaper than usual.

lottie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Lots of disagreements and misunderstandings come down to language in the end I buy local produce for preference but I don't feel I have to shop in Morrisons or Lidl with a garlic necklace and a large silver cross round my neck. Supermarkets have brought benefits for large sections of the population and there aren't many people who live their lives without them. I don't think their promotions and language are any worse or different to insurance,banks,car sales or furniture promotions ----they all use similar tactics,and looking at very old newspaper adverts for products and shops always have done,they've just got better at it. Our local farmers market that is just 2 days a month with some very overpriced produce and food is not what a lot of people in this area need want or can afford.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

lottie wrote:
troyannick wrote:


My two pet hates about that are when they say you 'Save ' money by buying something, you havent saved F###All youve paid the price they are asking.

As far as I'm concerned if I buy a jar of coffee a week and the first week of one month that brand is a BOGOF so I buy 4 jars to last me a month for the price I'd normally pay for2 jars then I have saved about 12 on my grocery bill that month.


Admittedly I mainly only buy my coffee on BOGOF.
But don't you then feel ripped off / disappointed when you are out of coffee and have to pay 'full price' for it because it is not on BOGOF ?

If the majority of people only bought BOGOF produce, then does BOGOF becomes the 'normal' price and the people that don't participate in buying what and when the supermarkets promote are they then paying an inflated price. ???
Can't quite get my head round it and I don't want to have to think about it when I shop - I want to know what something actually costs not what they might sell it to me for on another day.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

onemanband wrote:
I want to know what something actually costs not what they might sell it to me for on another day.


If it's UK, or EU, or most developed nations produce, add a few percent on the supermarket price to get the cost price, add another 25% to get the non-subsidised price.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Am I correct in saying that some fresh produce is exempt from the 'been on display at a store for a period of time' legislation ?

I.e things like strawberries and satsumas can go straight onto the shelves marked as half price and do not have to have been on display at the higher price.

troyannick



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yep its definately the language thing as I said its just a pet hate like 'hurry down', just bugs me.
I quite like Aldi for that reason, they tend to sell things at a price and thats it, they do have a few offers but not so intelligence insulting, like as if we dont know what they are doing type thing.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rob R wrote:
onemanband wrote:
I want to know what something actually costs not what they might sell it to me for on another day.


If it's UK, or EU, or most developed nations produce, add a few percent on the supermarket price to get the cost price, add another 25% to get the non-subsidised price.



I actually meant what it costs me, but I suppose it could be interpreted either way

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Many (most) people shop at supermarkets because of convenience, rather than price, if you do go for the prices you certainly spend a lot of the time working things out, or trying to.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's one of the main reasons I have my simple flat-rate system for beef, pork & lamb, much easier to work out (for me & the customer).

lottie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 12 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

onemanband wrote:


Admittedly I mainly only buy my coffee on BOGOF.
But don't you then feel ripped off / disappointed when you are out of coffee and have to pay 'full price' for it because it is not on BOGOF ?

If the majority of people only bought BOGOF produce, then does BOGOF becomes the 'normal' price and the people that don't participate in buying what and when the supermarkets promote are they then paying an inflated price. ???
Can't quite get my head round it and I don't want to have to think about it when I shop - I want to know what something actually costs not what they might sell it to me for on another day.

I am quite happy for some one to offer me a good or service for whatever price they want as long as they are not a monopoly provider of something essential like water.As long as the price is clearly marked[something some farmers markets and butchers still don't do] I can decide whether I want to buy it at that price or not. Regardless of special offers the prices would still vary according to inflation, world demand and availibility and seasonality anyway. There is no "normal " price for most things,there is a price range we expect to see things in unless market conditions change and I'm happy with that. Food is certainly a smaller proportion of most families budget than it was when I was younger.

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