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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:50 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

Did Sean not have his allotment ploughed? If done nowish the soil should break down. I don't know that much about ploughing though.

Lozzie



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have enjoyed reading the tips on this website:

http://www.no-dig-vegetablegarden.com/

- and they send a monthly e-zine which is good, too.

L x

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I got mine glyphosphated and then ploughed. Then I marked out beds. Then I dug manure into them, removing the larger stones while I was doing this gave me enough material to make paths between them.

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm assuming you're deploying bunny/hare/muntjac/dog walker defences around the plot. Another arguement for getting the overall allotment site sorted first.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

sean wrote:
I got mine glyphosphated and then ploughed. Then I marked out beds. Then I dug manure into them, removing the larger stones while I was doing this gave me enough material to make paths between them.


Did the rabbits leave you anything much to eat last year?

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A bit, mainly by planting things they don't eat. I've fenced it all properly now though, so I've just got the pheasants and pigeons to worry about. Maybe I should just build the world's biggest fruit cage.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Rabbits, pigeons, pheasants... I've never heard of such a protein rich allotment. I've said it before, but you need to get a gun and set up a hide in the shed. Then you can swap excess meat for the vegetables that other people grow.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

He said that I should get a .17 to deal with the rabbits, said a .22 would present a risk to traffic the other side of my boundary. But a .17 couldn't dispatch a hare...

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Got an unconfirmed offer of free ploughing from the woman next doors son, so what should I do? Hes an agricultural contractor so should have whatever implements are necessary.

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well have it moved...

...but couldn't ensure that you were facing the other way? or firing into the hill?

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
...but couldn't ensure that you were facing the other way? or firing into the hill?


Into the hill is at the footpath

Behemoth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

D'oh!

Might resolve the dog turd issue though.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Behemoth wrote:
Might resolve the dog turd issue though.


good thinking

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I plan to use chickens to clear the veg beds inthe garden of the house that we are definitley not going to buy because its too expensive!

I know you didn't plan to have livestock, but chickens are only little, and don't need much looking after, and they would be full time working chickens......

The idea is to make a chicken run the same size as I want my beds, and maybe a bunny run. Bunny will mow, and kill off all the stuff that isn't grass, and be followed by the featherbrains that will complete rotavating, mauring and pest cotrol duties. I'll then cover them up till I want them, and give them a quick forking over and put things in them. Sounds easy, doesn't it?

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 06 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

4 ft wide lazy beds and feed that ground .a machine dig would be sensible .

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