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stumbling goat



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 13 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations OL.

sg

jamanda
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 13 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well done

markjadams



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 13 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Big well done from me, it is a hard slog glad you got there in the end.

Mark.

OtleyLad



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 13 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I am joining the NICEIC 'competant person' scheme to be a qualified domestic installer. To do this they want to see 2 pieces of work that you have done (they come and inspect 2 new ones every year to see you are obeying the regs).
I went for a consumer unit replacement in our house and ordered a brand new split thing - it has 2 sets of 5 circuit breakers, each controlled by a RCD switch. Also it has 3 ordinary mcbs with no RCD.
So I took out the old CU and put in the new.
When it came to switch on every circuit except one tripped the RCDs!
Luckily I can temporaily link the circuits to the no-RCD protected mcbs so at least we can have some power. It has after all been operating fault free for years.
When I tested for continuity (to check all the wires are joined up) all were fine. But the IR test (test that the insulation is sound) failed all the circuits bar one.
Never mind it's a good thing for me to try and figure out and better I do it in my own home rather than at a customer's.
I tracked down the faulty line on the socket circuit, so thought I'd lift the floor boards and locate the exact location of the fault. What a nightmare!

Whoever re-wired the house was not a tidy person and worse they laid wires under the first floor in a single notch barely an inch deep - no trouble at all to bash a screw or nail through them if you felt like it. And there are 12 wires (plus 2 for the telephone) all squeezed together as they cross each joist. They were also run laying on the central heating water pipes.
The pic shows them after I separated them a little!

So I'm going to have to pull up a lot of wires and re-route through several holes in the joists - to spread them out.
Having found the fault I replaced the damaged wire and then connected the ring via a RCD - at least it does not trip now.
Only 6 more circuits to go. I can see this is going to end up taking a very long time...

RichardW



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 13 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I am sure you know but just in case.

A really common reason for the rcd to trip in cases like this is due to the neutral being wired back to the wrong rcd on the split board or for some one to have tapped into a neutral mainly to add an extra light & when a split board is fitted the live & neutral end up on different rcd's.

OtleyLad



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 13 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
I am sure you know but just in case.

A really common reason for the rcd to trip in cases like this is due to the neutral being wired back to the wrong rcd on the split board or for some one to have tapped into a neutral mainly to add an extra light & when a split board is fitted the live & neutral end up on different rcd's.


I'll keep a look out for that - it seems everything else is back to front so no reason that they didn't throw that into the mix too.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 13 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the thing under the floor looks like our house did.
when i did the kitchen properly the fitter chap (a kind description)had left 5 dangeroos faults and another 10 or so serious ones.it had power at all the sockets etc even though one corner was burnt return to earth cos the earth was carp .
genius in bad wiring is a complete nightmare unless one starts again at the head or cu.
my favorite is a random live wire from a totally different premises that enters and leaves again for no obvious reason apart from scaring me when i remove it's middle after isolating "my" premises.that one seems quite common especially in old properties that have been messed about over the last 120 yrs or so.

well done with the testing exams

OtleyLad



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Call me Sparky!

Today I was visited by the NICEIC Inspector - he looked at 2 pieces of work I've done and gave the thumbs up.
At last I am a PROPER ELECTRICIAN!

I can finally start advertising for work.

I may be celebrating tonight!

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Very good news indeed OL. <-- Sorry I've just seen this smilie and rather liked it.

cassy



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations!

Glad your hard work has paid off.

12Bore



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations, well done!

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations!

nora



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations OtleyLad.

alison
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 13 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well done.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 13 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratulations.

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